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Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by jrochkind1 on Friday May 31, 2019 @06:46PM (#20065768)
So you get a visa of some kind, maybe it's not just a tourist visa but one that lets you stay here for years, maybe eventually you even get a green card, maybe you get married and have kids here.

If they ever find even one of those identities, they can legally kick you out forever.

If you even later get citizenship, they can possibly revoke that citizenship and kick you out forever.

It's a pretty big risk there.

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by mirimir on Friday May 31, 2019 @07:14PM (#20065953)
Yes, it's a huge risk.

But if an immigrant has identities that would get them kicked out, disclosing them would just keep them out. And if any of those are readily discoverable, it's probably not worth even trying to get a visa or immigrate.

But if there are ~innocuous identities, it's best to disclose them. Unless there are links to not so innocuous ones.

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by goodold on Sunday June 02, 2019 @11:59PM (#20080312)
But even if all of your 10000 identities are innocuous, perhaps disclosing as many as 10000 identities itself get get your visa rejected.
Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by mirimir on Monday June 03, 2019 @02:36AM (#20080896)
That's an excellent point.

So if you're going to have numerous identities, it's best to do it right. And maybe then not disclose them.

But still iffy, if you know that you'll likely be emigrating.

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by dontbenebby on Friday May 31, 2019 @10:46PM (#20066878)
>But if an immigrant has identities that would get them kicked out, disclosing them would just keep them out

It's perfectly possible they'd be allowed in, but either due to a malicious insider or a data breach the information will leak, and someone from the old country will come looking for revenge.

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by mirimir on Friday May 31, 2019 @11:02PM (#20066953)
Well, disclosing them would keep them out. And sure, while lying might get them in, they could be kicked out later.

I was arguing that, in those circumstances, perhaps it's not worth taking the risk.

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by dontbenebby on Saturday June 01, 2019 @11:26AM (#20069628)
Stylometry is getting better by the day :)
Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by mirimir on Saturday June 01, 2019 @08:21PM (#20072649)
Very true, and a concern for me.

However, many years ago, I went largely offline, as my meatspace identity. I still do some social media with family, but not in English. And for decades, my work was off the record, doing litigation support. I did edit expert reports and legal documents, but most of that isn't public. And in any case, the style is different.

But sure, if you blog and tweet as your meatspace identity, and then have ~anonymous personas using the same language, stylometry could nail you. There is software for protecting against that, however. And it's getting better too.

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by dontbenebby on Monday June 03, 2019 @12:25PM (#20084970)
>However, many years ago, I went largely offline

See, right there you're narrowing the set by leaking your approximate age.

I don't think your opsec is as good as you think it is :)

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by mirimir on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @02:37AM (#20092473)
I almost always lie about my personas :)

But Mirimir in some ways is my least anonymous one.

Re:New Social Media Question on DS-160 and DS-260 Visa Appli... by djsumdog on Sunday June 02, 2019 @09:33PM (#20079735)
Keep in mind if your country or origin doesn't allow dual citizens (Indian, The Netherlands, Japan, etc.) and you get US citizenship (and revoke your home country) and the US decides to take your citizenship, that leave you without a state. That's a human rights violation.