Billions wasted on Hadoop startups, the same will eventually be true of Docker

Re:Billions wasted on Hadoop startups, the same will eventua... by panpanna on Friday May 31, 2019 @10:32AM (#20061228)

Containers are "easy" because they are backed by tons of kennel code (cgroups, namespaces and basically a small part of many other subsystems). You can actually create containers from the shell!

VMs are "hard" because you start with nothing save some very low-level help from the hardware.

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Re:Billions wasted on Hadoop startups, the same will eventua... by hardwaresofton on Friday May 31, 2019 @10:50AM (#20061400)

Also, I want to be clear that I'm using "simple" and "easy" in the rick hickey sense of the words, as in "simple" has more to do with what a thing is made of, and "easy" has more to do with ease of use, taking available tooling/familiarity and context into mind.

What I should have made clearer was that I think containers are both easier and simpler than VMs. There are both less moving parts (I haven't looked, but I assume less code), and containers are easier to get started with than VMs (set some flags on some syscalls versus make sure you buy the right CPU).

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Re:Billions wasted on Hadoop startups, the same will eventua... by panpanna on Friday May 31, 2019 @11:04AM (#20061534)

Fair enough, but don't forget there are some extremely simple hypervisor implementations out there too.

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