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Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by taylodl on Friday May 31, 2019 @06:54AM (#20059767)
This paragraph sums it up:

"My first hint that this was a skewed view came in university. I very quickly learned that, while I may have been the “best” in all of my high school classes, I was now in a place where my peers had been the “best” in theirs as well — and in most cases, their best was better than mine. This realization automatically dulled some of my drive to succeed. I would never gain the admiration and accolades I had received my whole life up until this point, so where was the desire to try? Still, I managed to get by receiving relatively good grades without an extreme amount of effort."

I too was gifted. I too had problems in college upon realizing I wasn't the smartest guy in the room anymore - sometimes by a long shot. Fortunately I had a couple things to save me. One was an article pointing out that most of the millionaires, using being a millionaire as a proxy for success, were all average or "C" students in school. The article theorized it was due to the "smart" kids getting lazy because things came too easily for them. The other was I grew up in a lower class household and my father worked on the side on home improvement projects - kitchen, bathroom and family room remodels. I had to work with him since he often needed help. Unfortunately I had learned to apply a strong work ethic to work, but not to school. Once I made that adjustment everything turned out fine. I ended up graduating summa cum laude. Has my life turned out as I expected? No - and that's a good thing. But that's also another story!

Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by hyperdeficit on Friday May 31, 2019 @07:53AM (#20060023)
I relate to this and give a lot of credit to my father for teaching me work ethic that I never knew I would need at the time. School was easy and I never learned to work hard at academic work, but I sure worked hard finishing a basement, chopping wood, shoveling the driveway, and much more. I always hated doing that work, but I would see my dad just continue to power through any project no matter how difficult it got. I would always find ways to take a break, but then I would see him continuing on and get right back in there and help him out.

After getting out of school and finding out that it actually does take time and grit to finish a project I have been grateful for the example that he set. It hasn't been easy learning to work hard at something, and I don't do nearly as well as he does at it, but I have gotten better over time.

Its because of this that my perspective has changed greatly around what makes a person succeed. I help teach people programming in my spare time and one thing I have noticed repeatedly is that the ones who do best over time are the ones who just keep at it even if it is difficult. Too often the "gifted" ones do great at the beginning, but once they encounter a topic that they don't naturally get then they might just give up because they feel it is too hard for them or that they will never get it.

Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by 0815test on Friday May 31, 2019 @08:22AM (#20060197)
Being able to reach "flow" quickly when setting out to work on something is what matters, even more so than "work ethic" or "grit" alone. In the longer run, relying on the latter just sets you up for burnout and the stress of overwork; whereas the former is sustainable and even quite enjoyable.

Physical activities such as shoveling snow and chopping wood are good at inducing flow, whereas it can take some effort to reliably enter that state when doing something more abstract. I think this is why the Pomodoro method is so popular, it can be used to "gamify" all sorts of tasks since the regularly-scheduled breaks act as a physical marker of your achievement.

Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by taylodl on Friday May 31, 2019 @11:29AM (#20061790)
That's a good point and brings up something I still struggle with - "flow." I'd never heard it put that way but that gives me another tool to help me up my game. Thanks!
Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by drbojingle on Friday May 31, 2019 @09:59AM (#20060909)
I would disagree with the article. I think the 'laziness' comes from a more well tuned intuition for value. Smart people don't make money because they're smart. Sometimes all smart people want to do is indulge in things that don't necessarily bring value to anyone. However, if you have a knack for seeing the value in something (or a lack of value) I think you'll be more likely to succeed. If you think about it, since grades don't come from a linear expulsion of effort, aiming to get high grades when you don't know what you're ROI is going to be does sound dumb.