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Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Thursday May 30, 2019 @01:14PM (#20053522)
Robust and frequent conversation.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by SolaceQuantum on Thursday May 30, 2019 @01:20PM (#20053591)
Again, actually serious here: With who? I cannot discuss politics in the workplace, and my peer group is focused on interests where the general culture is against discussing the gov't's current affairs or about other current events due to "bringing politics into it" concerns. I am also highly introverted and do not desire to take on more social circles, as this isn't an actual intense interest of mine. I'd just like to be kept abreast of events when they occur, within the context of their occurence.

Actually, edit: How is this different from 'mob' news?

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by brighter2morrow on Thursday May 30, 2019 @01:42PM (#20053886)
Why do you want to keep track of current affairs?
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by SolaceQuantum on Thursday May 30, 2019 @02:29PM (#20054430)
Well, a variety of things. Owning stocks, investing in the market, preparing for a downturn, and who is doing the things I care about legislatively, including who is representing my desires as a citizen so I can vote informedly.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Thursday May 30, 2019 @05:43PM (#20056193)
You should consider advocacy groups. They publish good stuff.

There is always bias, and I have spoken to that.

But where you have specifics, sign up for the newsletter.

Set some email filters and go.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by manfredo on Thursday May 30, 2019 @02:13PM (#20054244)
I'm pretty surprised at this question. Why woudn't people keep track of current affairs? Failure to do so is to be ignorant of what is happening in the world.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by 0xffff2 on Thursday May 30, 2019 @03:08PM (#20054837)
I've long since stopped actively following current events. My only source of news is what percolates through from other outlets (HN, things important/culturally relevant enough to get mentioned in Youtube videos, etc).

I would flip the question. Why would I want to keep track of current affairs? The vast majority of the things happening in the world have no impact on my life whatsoever. Even really big things like the Mueller report really don't have any impact on my day-to-day life (NB: I am a US citizen).

I do research on individual ballot propositions when it comes time to vote. I virtually always vote for third party candidates or no-one at all, but if a political party I actually support ever gains enough prominence to have a chance of winning I'll do my due diligence on their individual candidates too. Aside from that, who cares?

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by SolaceQuantum on Thursday May 30, 2019 @04:11PM (#20055417)
I offer a few use cases:

1) If I am a person that is capable of getting pregnant and wishes to have the option to terminate my pregnancy, it would be prudent to keep up to date on the legislation involving that.

2) If I am a trans person or a person of LGBTQ status, it would be prudent to keep up to date on legislation involving my healthcare needs and whether or not I am a protected class in my state and whether or not killing me because of my demographic is considered acceptable in certain circumstances ('gay panic' defense).

3) If I am a police officer or related to police offers, it would be prudent to keep up to date on legislation involving my employment or the employment applied to others. This applies also to civil servants in general, I would suspect, such as preparing for an upcoming gov't shutdown.

4) If I care about guns and my participation in guns or hunting, it would be prudent to keep up to date on legislation regarding my allowance, status, and licensing needs in accordance. This also applies if I happen to inherit a weapon from a grandparent or similar.

5) If I care about the tax structure of my country, it would be prudent to keep up to date on legislation regarding tax decisions, especially to keep track of which legislative big spending budget cuts or allowances are being made that will affect my taxes, for example the big tax return changes in america of 2019.

6) If I am related to, depended on by, or use Schedule I or otherwise restricted drugs legally or illegally for my medical need(pain, seizures, anxiety, chronic illness, cancer, etc), it would be prduent to keep up to date on legislation to understand how futures decisions will affect my access to my medical care of choice.

7) If I use or am related to someone who uses veterans benefits, SNAP, disability benefits, social security, medicare/medicaid, etc. it would be prudent to keep up to date to understand legislation on how future decisions would affect my/people I know's quality of life.

8) If I am an immigrant or am applying for legal immigrant status of any kind, it would be important for me to keep up to date with current legislation or direction of parties regarding my status as an immigrant and my children.

9) If I care about any of the above, say, I have relatives or friends that are affected by any of the above and wish to support them by voting, donating, or otherwise advocating in alliance with them, it would be important for me to keep up to date with any of the above in order to participate demographically in a system.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by 0xffff2 on Thursday May 30, 2019 @04:41PM (#20055697)
As someone potentially affected by government shutdowns, my employer is planning well in advance of it making the news.

I care about guns, but not enough to actively try to influence gun legislation. Historically, as long as my purchases are legal at the time of purchase, I'm almost certainly fine.

I care about taxes insofar as I pay them, but outside of when I'm actually doing my taxes I don't really care. I do check current rates periodically when updating my budget, but that's not a "current events" thing, it's a "make sure my budget is accurate" thing.

I am related to someone who uses SNAP. I assume that if their benefits change meaningfully they'll hear about it from the government agency managing those benefits and I'll hear about it from them.

Unless I'm going to go out and try to influence legislation about any of the above before it's passed (which I'm not), I utterly do not care about them until they affect me, and I'm likely to find out when they do without following the news. As I said above, I do vote and I do research the things I vote on, but I do that right before I vote. I would never remember the odd related news story I read 6 months prior the relates to a particular ballot proposition anyway.

(The rest of the points you mentioned don't apply to me at all so I don't have any opinion on whether I would feel differently about keeping up with current events if they did.)

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by SolaceQuantum on Thursday May 30, 2019 @04:46PM (#20055746)
"As I said above, I do vote and I do research the things I vote on, but I do that right before I vote."

This does not allow you to investigate if the people you vote for follow through with anything you cared to vote for them for.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by 0xffff2 on Thursday May 30, 2019 @04:53PM (#20055803)
Well, the aside from one Democratic candidate for California Governor that I voted for because the Republican candidate seemed uncommonly dangerous, the people I vote for pretty much never get elected so that's not an issue for me. If it was, then I don't see why I wouldn't be able to look up the voting records of candidates before I vote for them a second time.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by brighter2morrow on Friday May 31, 2019 @01:11AM (#20058378)
I can't do anything about any of these issues, corporate interests decide these issues not average people.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Thursday May 30, 2019 @05:46PM (#20056218)
This is a great list! You writing number 9 is super!

Many of us experienced that as friends came out in more difficult times.

We learned what affects them, does also affect us.

Impacted friends are not as much fun as happy, healthy ones are.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ModernMech on Thursday May 30, 2019 @11:20PM (#20057989)
> I would flip the question. Why would I want to keep track of current affairs? The vast majority of the things happening in the world have no impact on my life whatsoever. Even really big things like the Mueller report really don't have any impact on my day-to-day life (NB: I am a US citizen).

Then consider yourself privileged. For the rest of us, there are forces out there trying to legislate our bodies, prevent us from loving who we want, oppress who we want to be, take away our rights, and make our mere existence as close to illegal as possible. Keeping track of who is trying to take away our liberties and how those efforts are progressing is very important to us.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by brighter2morrow on Friday May 31, 2019 @01:12AM (#20058382)
These forces are nothing I can do anything about though. Corporate interests control the outcome of these things, not anything having to do with democracy.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Sunday June 02, 2019 @02:09AM (#20073780)
Actually, that is only marginally true.

The reality is we the people do have very considerable control. An additional reality is we the people are currently very distracted and being messaged to on a near constant basis.

Our effective control is at a low ebb right now. That's due to what I just wrote, plus money in politics, and that same money working consolidated media. (Reagan Fairness Doctrine Repeal; Clinton Telecoms Act of 1996)

You aren't wrong, but neither is the parent commenter!

The civil rights movement is the most immune to these effects as social issues tend to be least impacted by money particularly as big business realizes it's best for business when people get along. And it helps that there are people in executive positions right now who are directly impacted by shit social policy.

Progressives, and for purposes of discussion here, are people who are socially liberal and economically left, are building people powered politics as you read this. That's knocking on doors, holding events, messaging directly, largely avoiding big media, and that's largely due to the fact that big media sees the economic left focus as a potential cost and risk.

(as they should, but that does not mean some change is not warranted --many feel it is, but I digress here)

Manufacturing Consent --Chomskey is a great reference to understand the basic dynamics in play. You probably have read it too. It's here for passers by as much as anything else.

Democracy is largely functional, but it's noisy, and the noise is getting in the way of what would otherwise be a respectable state of affairs.

All of us know a gay person. All of us know a woman. All of us know a child.

These things do matter. While some of us, and this includes me, are in the pocket so to speak, can choose to largely ignore all this stuff, we do so at our friends, peers, future leaders, loved ones potential and personal cost and risk.

That's the argument anyway.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ModernMech on Friday May 31, 2019 @12:06PM (#20062158)
Tell that to the civil rights movement, women's suffrage movement, lgbtq rights movements etc. Appreciable gains have been made in civil rights over the years by people paying attention.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Sunday June 02, 2019 @02:11AM (#20073790)
And more of us need to pay attention. Only way to do that is to keep talking.

Those of us who are paying attention just need to continue talking with others.

It will build. As it should.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by drivers99 on Thursday May 30, 2019 @03:55PM (#20055286)
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by manfredo on Thursday May 30, 2019 @04:12PM (#20055429)
At best, these links are discouraging people from reading the news because some people find it stressful (fair, if people do find it stressful then by all means they should cut back). At worst, these sites are glorifying ignorance. You can't make effective decisions if you don't know what is happening. Sure, you may not be directly impacted by the events you're reading but it's still expanding your knowledge of the world. Not to mention, the second article seems to be operating under the erroneous assumption that books aren't a form of news. They frequently are. They're long-form and have longer latency from the events occurring and books being published. They're still works intended to describe and explain events or phenomena. They're news, even if the authors of your linked articles don't know it.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by thanatropism on Thursday May 30, 2019 @05:23PM (#20056045)
People in the park?

I too have trouble getting out of my shell / headphones but online civic engagement is at best an interesting if oddly-tasting topping to the real thing.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Thursday May 30, 2019 @05:30PM (#20056094)
Not a bad suggestion.
Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Thursday May 30, 2019 @05:14PM (#20055978)
I am serious too. Actually being somewhat informed takes some work. Distributing that among friends, trusted peers helps. And doing it this human way is timeless, effective too.

I have a set of these running with people all over the world.

Forums, discord, Reddit, other places. The phone! Something happens, and I know who is gonna call. They want to talk all about it. What do we know, what can we infer, what might it mean?

Those are the best!

We all look at what was published, then discuss.

Some groups are focused too, sometimes doing research, timelines...

The value in those circles is huge, some cultivated over years. I know where I can go for a question, others know they can come to me. Each of us has domain knowledge, or experience, or cares enough to be valuable.

You could just use TYT, and contrast that with a few major newspapers and networks.

Talking with a diverse set of others, who will do that to seek being better informed really does help. Not everyone can though.

As for "not bringing politics into it", sadly everything is political.

Pure tech and science has the very least, but it is still there.

Even getting the info is political as you have seen.

No easy outs on this, also sadly.

I feel your frustration. I dealt with it two decades ago in this way. I have much less of it now.

The hard truth of it is most of the time when people are looking for who to just trust, that trust gets abused.

Eventually, they resign to avoiding the lot of it, and doing that is OK do not get me wrong here, or they seek peers for that need in their life.

Politically savvy people tend to trend social, but they also can understand people who are not.

Make a few friends. You know stuff. They may not. Trade for mutual enlightenment. No joke.

That is how I got started. Tech issues, copyright, etc... I could fill in blanks, and did. They could take current events and boil that down into a useful discussion.

I love most of those people and would miss those conversations terribly.

Edit: One other thing: I definitely do not agree with the politics all my conversation partners hold, nor they mine. That is OK. We are all good minded humans looking to make sense of things, maybe act when we need to, or understand we really do have common cause.

Being wrong or different is not a big deal. Unless it is. In most of my circles, it isn't. Group knowledge has info in it that individual knowledge does not.

Can't get it unless we actually talk about stuff.

That is all I got man. If it does not help, no worries.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by thanatropism on Thursday May 30, 2019 @05:21PM (#20056025)
This this this, the real answer! The truth has always been determined through meaningful social consensus. This doesn’t scale well — you need a diversity of people in your life (eg boss, friends, clients, spouse, local hipsters etc) to build knowledge. People in this thread are trying to synthesize a folk epistemology when in reality knowledge of facts is also a lived-in fat just as know how is.

Watch the documentary “Being in the world” for more.

Re:Former reporter creates ‘Rate my Professor’ for newsrooms by ddingus on Thursday May 30, 2019 @05:29PM (#20056091)
You know it brother. People benefit when they learn how to talk, understand one another and demonstrate mutual consideration and respect.

It is hard. Oh, so worth it.