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Re:The Dirty Truth About Web Passwords by swombat on Tuesday December 14, 2010 @10:14AM (#2004398)
I thought they had them hashed and salted, but the crackers are using rainbow tables and brute force to crack them?
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Re:The Dirty Truth About Web Passwords by gthank on Tuesday December 14, 2010 @11:09AM (#2004571)
No, they weren't. According to the "Release Notes", they were using a DES-based crypt scheme. Read up on tptacek's (http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=tptacek) comments on the matter.
Re:The Dirty Truth About Web Passwords by pietrofmaggi on Tuesday December 14, 2010 @11:48AM (#2004727)
Yes, as you told, I was writing from my memory and I remembered having read DES encryption with password in source somewhere.

But It seems it was a DES based hashing: http://www.duosecurity.com/blog/entry/brief_analysis_of_the_...

[edit] deleted the parent post because I could not find the article I remembered (which was probably wrong anyways).

Re:The Dirty Truth About Web Passwords by tedunangst on Tuesday December 14, 2010 @11:23AM (#2004627)
Do you have a reference for that? Everything I've read (not really authoritative) indicated they were using the standard crypt interface, which does use DES, but is a lot closer to salted hash then encrypted. I can see the issue getting confused either way (people see DES, don't know what to think), but using crypt seems a lot more likely.
Re:The Dirty Truth About Web Passwords by Xk on Tuesday December 14, 2010 @12:12PM (#2004825)
Brute force? Yes.

Rainbow tables? No. That's the purpose of a salt. The table needs to be several orders of magnitude bigger.