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Re:Google emails in Adtrader lawsuit show company didn't ref... by prepend on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:23PM (#20034563)
I have a few friends who work at google and this seems like common knowledge. In conversation though it wasn’t nefarious, they just thought it was unavoidable and relatively constant so they reasoned that the inefficiency is built into the price. When I asked that they did to combat it, they weren’t aware. Hopefully this lawsuit shows the lengths that google goes to to reduce ad fraud.

But it seems likely to not be too effective. It just seems like the incentives aren’t there. It’s like when magazines estimate their readership, there’s no regulator checking their numbers so it’s just something buyers have to accept.

Re:Google emails in Adtrader lawsuit show company didn't ref... by reaperducer on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @09:42PM (#20036133)
It’s like when magazines estimate their readership, there’s no regulator checking their numbers so it’s just something buyers have to accept.

Completely untrue. There are several organizations that audit print circulation very closely. And the more closely a print publication is audited, the more it can charge for advertising.

One org is The Alliance for Audited Media: https://auditedmedia.com

Re:Google emails in Adtrader lawsuit show company didn't ref... by prepend on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @05:34AM (#20038258)
My source came from Time Inc. they showed me the audited numbers and also their estimated views based on doctors offices, friends loaning, etc. that number is audited in that they explain their surveys and whatnot, but it’s pretty specious. And advertisers don’t care so much.
Re:Google emails in Adtrader lawsuit show company didn't ref... by tedivm on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @08:07PM (#20035684)
That's super sketchy, to be honest. For this to be relatively well known- but hidden from customers, which it certainly has been- this amounts to theft.