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Re:Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity? by mindcrime on Saturday May 25, 2019 @05:50PM (#20011679)
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I miss the trajectory. Many things were exciting in the '90s, but many things didn't turn out so well.

This is pretty much the same way I feel. I'm not sure exactly when things changed, but there is definitely a sense that we went off the rails somewhere along the way. Some time ago there was excitement, optimism, and a sense of boundless opportunity, associated with the Internet and tech in general. Now... well... there's still some of that, but a lot of it has been replaced by negativity, fear, pessimism, doubt, and suchlike. The overall zeitgeist is definitely less pleasant these days, IMO.

Re:Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity? by tomjen3 on Sunday May 26, 2019 @04:21PM (#20017240)
I have seen that chance here on HN, which is honestly one of my biggest gribes with the site, everything that is positive is destroyed completely. You can see that with the commentors who used to be found here often (patio11 especially) who are now only around for a few specific threads (but somehow magically there when the threads call for it).

However I am sure it wasn't 9/11 that did it, because I wasn't really on the internet then, and HN didn't exist.

Re:Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity? by patio11 on Sunday May 26, 2019 @10:42PM (#20019047)
I think my HN participation is just a function of where I am in life right now, to be honest. (Sandwiched between a demanding job which uses a lot of the same cycles that HN used to use and having a young family.)
Re:Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity? by twilight00 on Sunday May 26, 2019 @12:34AM (#20013174)
I think 9/11/2001 was that turning point. Then the crash almost exactly 7 years later made things even worse.

I can't speak for other countries, but both of these events were like a one-two punch to the gut socially, politically, and economically here in America, and we're still reeling.

Re:Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity? by mindcrime on Sunday May 26, 2019 @05:05PM (#20017494)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure 9/11 was a contributing factor. Not sure it was the thing, but then again, there probably wasn't just one "thing" that caused all this. It seems like more of a sequence of things, some big, some little, spread out over time, and gradually skewing the zeitgeist to a more negative, pessimistic, unpleasant outlook.

In regards to tech and the Internet in particular, I think the Snowden revelations and the PRISM stuff was a key moment, in terms of changing the perception of the Internet. After broad public awareness of ubiquitous online surveillance became a thing, the Internet lost some of it luster and became more threatening and less welcoming.

More recently, the Cambridge Analytica stuff, along with all the major data breaches over the past few years, probably contributed to that sensation as well.

Re:Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity? by return1 on Sunday May 26, 2019 @06:13AM (#20014143)
9/11 was definitely the turning point - the end of optimism. I never expected that the world would not have recovered 20 years later.