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Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by swombat on Monday December 13, 2010 @10:48AM (#2000767)
So, wait a minute... jacquesm contacted you with an idea for a relatively harmless experiment (I was contacted too, so I know what it was about), and your response was to post it all on HN without even talking to him first?
Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by wwortiz on Monday December 13, 2010 @10:52AM (#2000783)
It seems that icey did not think it was so harmless and wanted to inform the community in case any malice was involved. If this experiment was completely harmless I don't see why the contributor needed to contact so many people (as it seems they contacted quite a few active members from the comments) in order to perform it.
Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by swombat on Monday December 13, 2010 @10:59AM (#2000817)
Knowing what the phishing in question was, yes, it was pretty harmless. Even if it was not, jacquesm would not risk his reputation in doing something malicious to the HN community, so this is a case where a private email might have done the same as this public notice.

I'm not saying anyone here did anything terrible, but usually when contacted privately you first respond privately, so this is a bit out of order. It's not like jacquesm wouldn't have listened to arguments about this, and so an immediate action in the form of this post is, well, just bad form.

Edit: jacquesm has come forth with it, so I've replaced "a contributor" with his username.

Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by jasonlotito on Monday December 13, 2010 @12:40PM (#2001261)
> Even if it was not, jacquesm would not risk his reputation in doing something malicious to the HN community,

Not intending to get into this specific debate, but that's precisely the wrong way to think. Well respected individuals with a good reputation risk their's every day. More importantly, for many, jacquesm is a faceless individual. How can you be certain he's the one who concocted this plan and it wasn't someone who fished out his information in order to utilize his reputation to gain something? Especially when this so-called "jacquesm" is trying to phish out information from the HN community, something that could hurt his reputation regardless of the intent.

I'm not suggesting he wasn't who he said he was, nor should be distrust him. Rather, we need to always be aware of what we trust (and an email from a friend is merely that, an email, not your friend).

Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by jacquesm on Monday December 13, 2010 @01:37PM (#2001477)
> and an email from a friend is merely that, an email, not your friend

Excellent point, and one that can't be stressed enough.

Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by icey on Monday December 13, 2010 @11:35AM (#2000966)
I did respond in channel; I'm not sure what your problem is with that.
Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by jacquesm on Monday December 13, 2010 @11:00AM (#2000822)
Or, the reverse, exactly because it is known to quite a few members, if there were any malice in it that would have never happened. And then icey would not have been able to spill the beans.
Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by icey on Monday December 13, 2010 @11:18AM (#2000900)
No, he did not contact me about it at all. It was being discussed in irc. I told him I thought it was a terrible idea there, but since it was still being pursued, I posted here.
Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by swombat on Monday December 13, 2010 @11:21AM (#2000923)
Being contacted on IRC is still being contacted.
Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by icey on Monday December 13, 2010 @11:39AM (#2000981)
He was discussing it in channel. How is that different than a publicly held conversation? I only happened to catch it because I switched into my client for a minute while doing a deployment. This was not a private conversation.
Re:Plead HN: Please be careful with your information by tptacek on Monday December 13, 2010 @12:46PM (#2001287)
Isn't this a better conversation for email?