I’m only speaking to the interaction between Greenpeace and Japan, which is mostly concerning whaling. Japan kind of reluctantly puts up with their behavior. China won’t. They have near zero chance of making any impact in China.

Perhaps a Greenpeace ship needs to be attacked by Chinese on live TV in order to gain momentum?

We need eco-martyrs too.

It won’t affect them just like when Russia poisons defectors abroad on foreign soil. Lots of noise and complaining but nothing can come of it. They’re too big.

Not just too big, they are outside of the US sphere of influence, while Japan is a client state really.

We should still shame reprehensible behavior.

> We need to keep China down at all costs

really?

china is a nuclear armed power, i’m not sure we want to see the result of “at all costs” type of thinking