Re:Europe says 737 Max won't fly until it completes it own d...
by huslage on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @10:45AM
(#19981722)
Applying throttle to any airplane with engines under the wings causes a pitching momentum. The pitching momentum is different in the MAX than other aircraft, but that doesn't make it less safe than anything else as long as a pilot is trained to understand it. The MAX is not naturally more likely to enter a stall regime than its predecessors.
Re:Europe says 737 Max won't fly until it completes it own d...
by LoSboccacc on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @12:02PM
(#19982597)
well yes, but there's more to a big plane stall. wings washout makes them stall at the root first, so that the center of lift moves backward, slightly helping overcome the engine momentum
moving the engine forward increased such momentum
large planes are finely balanced machines, it doesn't take much to get outside their flying boundaries, wether authority or loading, especially because the trim on them has buttload more authority than the elevator controlled from the yoke
Re:Europe says 737 Max won't fly until it completes it own d...
by foldr on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @09:45AM
(#19981076)
I don't think recovery from deep stalls is actually much of a safety issue with airliners. Are there any instances where an airliner has deep stalled and then successfully recovered? By definition, a deep stall is one where standard stall recovery procedures won't be effective.
Re:Europe says 737 Max won't fly until it completes it own d...
by LoSboccacc on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @12:05PM
(#19982618)
> much of a safety issue with airliners
yeah because they tend to pitch down way before reaching a full wing stall, but the max pushes the partial stall deeper.
this is not entirely true. applying throttle to the max causes a pitching momentum, something you don't want during a deep stall when control surfaces are totally unresponsive, because it would make the exit procedure (throttle up, nose naturally pitches down, gain airpseed and regain control) unsafe (throttle up, whops the plane is now pointing upward and going backward)