Manjaro is the one linux distro that recommended users set their clocks back in the past because they f....d up big time with their HSTS+HTTPS cert. [0]

Ok, that was 4 years ago, but still, I wouldn't dare use it.

And for those who will use Manjaro, please don't ask for support on the Arch forums/subreddit/IRC chan.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgo... https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NTDcUS...

>the Arch Linux fork Manjaro ships a static private key on their installer image which also gets copied to the target system. The result is that all Manjaro users have the same "private" key and anybody can easily use this to sign any package that the package manager will accep

https://pierre-schmitz.com/random-but-important/

This post is 6 years old, does somebody know if this is still the case?

Manjaro is fine, but I preferred Antergos because it used the Arch Linux packages, meaning I always had the latest ones. AFAIK, Manjaro is behind by like a month? In which case, why even bother with rolling release?

Rolling release =/= bleeding edge.

> used the Arch Linux packages, meaning I always had the latest ones.

This is provably false, as I can witness from my recent experience where Arch has 14 month old, long superseded, version of a package, while other Linux distros (including Manjaro, but also Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, openSuse, etc.) use the most/more recent version.

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> AFAIK, Manjaro is behind by like a month? In which case, why even bother with rolling release?

Even if this were true (and it isn't, see the sibling comment), I've seen responses like yours and I don't understand them.

Where would you draw the line when it comes to rolling? You say that one month behind is too long. Is 2 weeks ok? One week? 3 days? 1 day? 12 hours? Why does it even matter?

To answer you from my perspective:

I "bother" with Manjaro because I like the rolling distro philosophy, but I also value stability. If those two weeks of delay will bring me packages which are better tested and more stability overall - I'm all for it.

Oh and I don't even update as soon as an update hits the stable channel, I regularly decide to wait at least a day or two to see if others have any problems with the update.

For other people, who are more impatient (and more adventurous), Manjaro offers two other channels: testing and unstable.

> This is provably false, as I can witness from my recent experience where Arch has 14 month old, long superseded, version of a package, while other Linux distros (including Manjaro, but also Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, openSuse, etc.) use the most/more recent version.

Would you mind telling us what package that is?

My line is that I want the latest upstream packages with as little delay as possible while not breaking things. It’s a vague line, but that’s how it is. Arch Linux has generally managed to hit that line consistently and I haven’t experienced any breakages in years. Most of the issues I’ve had were due to Antergos screw-ups.

Unfortunately, I have seen out of date (1+ month) packages without any response from the maintainer, so I guess it’s just something that happens. My reasonable expectation is that I do have the latest ones, and I’m annoyed if I don’t.

Manjaro stable is behind Arch ca. 2 weeks. Unstable a day or two. Some packages get fast tracked. For example the Firefox update came yesterday, hours after release.

Manjaro was a gateway drug for me. Used Ubuntu from when it came out to ~2014. Switched to Manjaro, but after the SSL cert fiasco I switched to Arch proper. When I started my job, Gentoo is our office distro for workstations and servers, so I switched all my home machines over to make sure I understood it. Then I ended up liking it more than Arch...

I went a bit the other way around. Switched from RedHat to Gentoo ca. 2002, and used it for about 8 years, when I started using mostly Macs, and some Ubuntu installs (less time to dick around with build flags and long compile times). Just last week installed Manjaro on a new system, and it seems really nice. I'll probably switch my home laptop from Ubuntu to it (or plain Arch, maybe)

Opposite to Antergos Manjaro is a) using solely their own repos, not also Arch's and b) come bloated (far too many applications installed by default) and themed out of the box.

Yes it does. Manjaro provides a GREAT user experience. I tried it on my laptop and I truly enjoyed it.

I really enjoy Manjaro myself. I distro hop a bit but I always have Manjaro as a fallback since it's rock solid for me.

Using the architect installer it's also fast and trivial to make your own custom install that's as minimal or fully loaded as you like.