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Re:Foreign Minister Taro Kono to ask media to switch order o... by gmueckl on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @07:09PM (#19976084)
Fun fact: some German names (e.g. Strauß) change spelling when capitalized. The letter "ß" is a ligature that only exists as a lower case letter and has to be written as "SS" when capitalized.

Names are fun. I recently had dealings with a company that assumed in its employee roster that the last word entered in the name field was your last name (i.e. anything beyond the last space). One of my coworkers was from Spain and had a last name consisting of two words separated by a space. She was the very definition of a failure case for that system.

Re:Foreign Minister Taro Kono to ask media to switch order o... by souprock on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @11:05PM (#19977364)
That mistake has been fixed: ẞ

It was terrible because you could get all 3 choices in a lowercase usage (s, ss, ß) and then lose that distinction when capitalizing. You couldn't reliably uncapitalize such words unless somebody disobeyed the rules by leaving the ß unmolested.

Lingering affects will be with us for ages, for example in the rules that computers use to do sorting and searching. The default capitalization rules for Unicode can't really change because that would break somebody's database or filesystem.

Re:Foreign Minister Taro Kono to ask media to switch order o... by jorams on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @07:27PM (#19976188)
Note that there is now an official capital "ß", after being adopted as official in 2017. It has been in Unicode for longer. The situation is fairly complicated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_%E1%BA%9E

Re:Foreign Minister Taro Kono to ask media to switch order o... by Ultramanoid on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @05:29AM (#19979398)
In Spain there are two last names, not a last name "with a space" between words. Traditionally paternal first, maternal second, although the law has changed to be able to use any order. Both must be present in legal documents or ID card, passport, etc.

It is a real pain for Spaniards living abroad. It is not a middle name, a two worded last name, or anything of that sort. Full legal name = First name + Parent A's 1st last name + Parent B's 1st last name.

Edit : As pointed out in another comment, a Spanish last name can be a two worded one, and a first name can be as well, and often is. So you could end up with for instance, a 5-word nightmarish José Carlos ( 1st name ) García ( 1st last name ) De Maestre ( 2nd last name ).

Re:Foreign Minister Taro Kono to ask media to switch order o... by kh_hk on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @11:14PM (#19977396)
> One of my coworkers was from Spain and had a last name consisting of two words separated by a space.

It's two last names, father and mother first last names. I guess the same definition works, but it's worth noting that any last name might contain a space.

Re:Foreign Minister Taro Kono to ask media to switch order o... by roberto on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @11:34PM (#19977505)
Not necessarily. My last name is Ferreira De Almeida. "Ferreira" comes from my mother, and "De Almeida", with space, comes from my father.

I started spelling it "Dealmeida" to avoid confusion.

Re:Foreign Minister Taro Kono to ask media to switch order o... by CrowFly on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @02:08AM (#19978257)
And some languages have no upper and lower case, like my native language (Hebrew).