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Re:A Solution for Loneliness: Get out and volunteer, researc... by marnett on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:03PM (#19975022)
do not forget the social cohesive elements like worship. i have strongly believed the church's biggest advantage as a social institution is due to collectively performing some unifying ritual. i think these rituals are instrumental to the social cohesion that is the congregation.
Re:A Solution for Loneliness: Get out and volunteer, researc... by Broken_Hippo on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @07:09AM (#19979885)
But there isn't social cohesion for folks like me.

I'm female. I do not believe in god. I'm bisexual.

I am exactly the sort of person left out of worship unless I pretend I'm someone I am not and don't reveal my true self. I'm a fraud if I want to fit in - these groups rarely simply accept me going there for the social aspect.

Re:A Solution for Loneliness: Get out and volunteer, researc... by jtr1 on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @02:16PM (#19983883)
I'm sorry, I hope my comment didn't come across as flippant about how the majority of churches treat women, LGBTQ+ people, and others. I'm pretty firmly in the unbeliever category myself and left out of disgust with all the exclusionary practices.

I did spend several years in an ELCA church pastored and co-pastored by a woman and by a gay man, who made a point every week of welcoming non-believers to the service. It nuanced my worldview a little bit. They were lovely people, but the congregation was definitely fighting upstream in wider Christian culture.

In my mind, the main secular benefit of church (for people who were not excluded) was access to ready-made community, reinforced by a regular meeting space and rituals (like singing) that help people bond and process major life transitions. I've been on the outside for about five years and haven't really found anything that fills that space, although I'm always interested to hear what others have found.