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Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by Townley on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:52PM (#19974182)
That's not my impression at all. To me, it deepens their accomplishment by acknowledging the headwinds faced by women in tech.

Your proposed headline would be a fine lead-in to an article solely about a research accomplishment, but this is also an article about two people making inroads towards better gender representation in STEM fields.

Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by dgzl on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:20PM (#19974488)
The tech industry bends over backwards to get women involved. Putting them on a pedestal only worsens the divide rather than closing it.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by freewilly1040 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:14PM (#19975683)
a) there are efforts to get women involved in the tech industry, but there is still a lot of discrimination b) the article describes programmers from the 1960's
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:37PM (#19975846)
Weren’t many of the programmers in the 50s and 60s women? The gender divide didn’t start to get really bad until late 80s, from what I understand.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by OJFord on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:47PM (#19975908)
A 'computer' was a predominantly female job role until.. I don't know, but some time post-war when we got bored of saying 'automatic computer' to describe the increasingly dominant method of computation.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by oh_sigh on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @07:35PM (#19976240)
Being a computer is different from being a software engineer or coder/programmer. Even when women were computers, they generally weren't the coders/programmers - this task was usually up to mathematicians or other subject matter experts who were generally men.

Women computers were replaced by software definable processors, not by software engineers.

Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:49PM (#19977297)
I don’t think this is accurate.

The mathematicians/engineers were more like architects, and the women programmers weren’t merely compilers or input technicians. They actually wrote code, though this was also considered a drudge task back then (a view that was corrected later). Also, proximity to the hardware allowed many to grow out of their original job descriptions.

Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by seandougall on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @07:02PM (#19976026)
Until the invention of the phrase "software engineer", is my theory.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by dgzl on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:52PM (#19975948)
I'm still fairly new to the industry so I realize I'm likely missing historical context, but the only discrimination I've seen has been against men and in favor of women.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by freewilly1040 on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @12:48AM (#19977861)
In my experience you learn much more about discrimination in tech by having open minded conversations than by seeing it firsthand. Much of it is subtle and happens out of view from others.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by thehogrammer on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:42PM (#19975873)
encouragement != being put on a pedestal.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by dgzl on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:49PM (#19975922)
Special treatment != Encouragement.
Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by thehogrammer on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @07:55PM (#19976351)
Can you please point me in the direction of this special treatment because I've never received any. I would love to fly through a FAANG interview because I'm a woman.

I'm not even being facetious, where is all this special treatment? Clearly I'm missing out.

Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by dgzl on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @09:35PM (#19976949)
The amount of "let's help women/minorities specifically" programs and scholarships are numerous, but this one caught my eye a few months ago.

> I'm going to give 40 women $9000 stipends to cover their living expenses while they take Lambda School's programming course.[0]

[0] http://foundersatwork.posthaven.com/women-learn-to-program-t...

Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by elliekelly on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @01:39AM (#19978103)
Take a few minutes to create a gmail with a female sounding username or even an HN handle that clearly belongs to a woman. Send 10 emails or comment here for a few days and see how differently you’re treated.

Look even at the disrespectful comments Jessica got in response to that announcement. How often, if ever, have you seen those sort of comments on HN directed towards male partners at YC?

I’m not even saying this facetiously. I wish more men in tech had the courage to see what it’s like to be a woman in tech. I think it would do everyone a lot of good.

Re:Two women programmers played a pivotal role in the birth ... by thehogrammer on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @09:52PM (#19977033)
I already have my degree (in CS).

btw shout out to Jessica Livingston! Amazing program.