Worth it, I'm sorry that you'll never know the joy of having your kids drag you away to play Minecraft with them.

You're making a lot of assumptions there bud - I'm just trying to point out that "have children to cure loneliness" seems as bad of advice as "have children to save the marriage".

I agree that having kids to cure loneliness is “doing it for the wrong reason”. But I don’t think it’s controversial that having kids does actually cure loneliness.

If the cause of the loneliness is they they aren't socially adept, then how would they find someone to have kids with in the first place?!

And if they do find someone, won't the loneliness be cured already without having kids?

In my experience the world isn’t as black and white as you seem to think.

Why bad? Both can works in some situation for some people.

Because if it works, great, but if it fails, you're now in a failing marriage and you've brought kids into that misery. Children are not something with which to gamble to try and make your own life better.

So just like everything else then. Whatever solution you have, there will always be risk of horrible failure.

Many others don't involve dragging human lives into the mix as part of the gamble.

Sometime the solution is to involve other human lives.