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Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by jteppinette on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:04PM (#19972872)
Disclaimer: work for Apple but about 1000 miles away from hardware

The MacBook touch pads are leagues above all the competition. It’s the number one thing that keeps me away from my think pads.

Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by bscphil on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:58PM (#19974261)
Why do you say that? Isn't that entirely a personal preference thing? I have preferred any good non-Apple touchpad I have tried to Apple's. (To be fair, 90% of laptops sold ship with cheap, terrible touchpads.) The touchpad on my Dell XPS is a good example; zero finger friction, physical left/right buttons at the bottom of the touchpad, and perfect sensitivity / detection of tap to click and two finger scroll. The drivers support "natural" scrolling too.

On the other hand, Apple's touchpads have to be configured to even enable tap-to-click(?!), and click-and-drag doesn't even work with it... On pretty much any non-Apple touchpad and OS combination, double-tapping on a draggable object enables dragging mode, where you can move the object around the screen with one finger.

If Apple seriously got its software story together, it would at least support better configurability for its touchpads. But even then, it wouldn't have physical buttons, which I prefer.

Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by usaphp on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:59PM (#19977338)
After I got the haptic touch trackpad, I can’t go back to physical buttons. Ability to click anywhere on a trackpad with a click like feedback is one of the best things Apple ever did.
Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by bscphil on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @07:53PM (#19986892)
Maybe if they reduced the force required to click the button by about 75% I could get used to it. It's so hard to push from my normal typing position that I feel like I have to use leverage from my arm instead of just a finger. Plus it's not comfortable to click and drag when you have to continually push down - I'd still want tap to click available even if they improved it.
Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by criddell on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:47PM (#19974119)
Maybe you don't want to comment, but are people inside Apple that use a MacBook all day generally happy with the keyboards? I know there's going to be a mix of opinions, but here and on sites like Reddit, it feels like there's a majority opinion that the new keyboards are worse.
Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by jteppinette on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:50PM (#19975463)
Sometimes I just smash the keys till they get unstuck.
Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by sbov on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:54PM (#19974894)
Yep. I switched from a Macbook Pro and I definitely miss the touch pad.

But I don't miss the keyboard. Or the touchbar. Or the hotkey layout. Or the operating system. Or not being able to upgrade my hard drive when I needed to.

Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by bufferoverflow on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:54PM (#19973551)
And a $20 mouse is leagues above any touchpad.
Re:Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro by scotu on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:18PM (#19973816)
not for me, my hand kill me with any mouse, vertical included. Cannot leave the mac's touchpad