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Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by skciva on Monday May 20, 2019 @05:48PM (#19965610)
Anecdotally, I know multiple people who's followers count would put them in the category of "nano influencer" who do an excellent job using their platform to engage with interested clients / paying customers.

I guess because of this one might not refer to them as purely an "influencer" but more and more people I know use instagram as a primary platform for advertising skills / wares as well as a place to spend money.

If you know your audience spends time on instagram, you'd be stupid not to put resources into engaging with them on the platform.

Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by Bayart on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:20AM (#19968641)
>I guess because of this one might not refer to them as purely an "influencer" but more and more people I know use instagram as a primary platform for advertising skills / wares as well as a place to spend money.

Yeah, I had absolutely no interest in the platform until I learned of some shoe makers communicating/selling only through it. It seems to have become a very popular showcasing platform for crafts.

Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by ggg2 on Monday May 20, 2019 @06:35PM (#19965981)
"Anecdotally, I know multiple people who's tupperware parties count would..."

I am not talking trash about your point. Just that you replied to a comment with not much understand of multi level marketing (pyramid schems) that the previous comment was aluding to (and the commenter didn't expand on it either). Most people in the tech business do not have much exposure to it. But the success of things like herbalife, avon, etc rest on the "marketing reach potential" of their network, not just for the direct product.

so in a way you are confirming the similarity that you thought you were denying with your comment. And the great insight here is how "influencer" is a kind of organic-multilevel-marketing scam.

Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by majormajor on Monday May 20, 2019 @09:08PM (#19966816)
Other than your suggestion that a "nano-influencer" is akin to MLM (in the whole up/down graph stuff, and pyramid nature), I don't see reason here to conclude that.

Small-to-medium brands engaging with small-to-medium scale individual marketers/influencers could be quite different than traditional MLM, with way fewer intermediaries.

Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by kohtatsu on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:26AM (#19967968)
The problem with MLMs was the predatory nature: having friends suck eachother into them to earn referrals, and most of the product being sold to people with dreams of getting rich with "cheap" and exclusive prices, who will in turn have a hard time finding actual customers to consume it.
Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by cerebellum42 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:28AM (#19968202)
The main differentiating factor is whether the "distributors" are the customers (as is the case with a lot of MLMs, around these days) and real sales to end customer only make up a small percentage of total sales. In those cases all the product ends up in garages and attics of the people who bought in and now can't sell because the product is overpriced shit and designed as such. That means the primary way to make sales is to recruit new "distributors" who then have to do the same (so, pyramid schemes).

However things like tupperware didn't seem to work that way, the product was actually mostly sold to end customers which makes it a legitimate business and not a pyramid scheme.

Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by adrianratnapala on Monday May 20, 2019 @09:19PM (#19966859)
> ... of organic-multilevel-marketing scam.

Is it a scam though? A pyramid scam is self-similar: you sell to people who then expect to sell to people who expect to sell to people etc.

I thought Avon, Tupperware etc. had a fixed length chains and multi-decade track records of sales to real consumers at the end of the chain.

Re:Millions of Instagram influencers had their contact data ... by TallGuyShort on Monday May 20, 2019 @09:41PM (#19966970)
It's not a recursive scam, but some of them are still situations where they convince people to buy in before they understand the demand, and then in order to recoup their costs they now have to resort to obnoxious techniques like inviting their entire Facebook contacts list to their virtual party. I think the term "scam" is removing the resellers from responsibility for their own situation, so "sham" is a better term. Others aren't scams at all, but simply business that usually involve obnoxious techniques like inviting your entire Facebook contacts list to your virtual party.