Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by internals on Monday May 20, 2019 @03:10PM
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What a great case study. Successfully shifting 80% of mobile traffic to QUIC for a 50% reduction in latency is amazing. QUIC and the ongoing work with multipath TCP/QUIC will be huge QoL improvements for mobile networking.
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Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by api on Monday May 20, 2019 @05:58PM
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The other awesome thing about QUIC is that it encrypts almost everything including header information, making middlebox traffic shaping worthless and demoting middleboxes in general.
Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by drewg123 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @08:17AM
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It also makes hardware offloads like TSO and LRO impossible, and increases cost-per-byte served by a factor of 4 or more. So if you have infinite CPU to throw at QUIC and/or low bandwidth or connection targets, its great. If you are concerned at all about server-side efficiency, its terrible.
FWIW, I work on the Netflix CDN, and specialize in server-side efficiency; we have had 100G flash CDN nodes for years serving at 90G+ in production. None of that would be possible with QUIC as it stands. I suspect our max B/W on these machines would drop from ~95Gb/s to 20Gb/s or less if we were to switch to QUIC.
Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by api on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:23AM
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I hear you and those are valid points.
Don't blame QUIC. Blame ISPs and middlebox makers for abusing their (literal network-wise) position and breaking the end-to-end principle. History has shown that we just have to encrypt everything and quite literally cut out the middleman/box.
Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by scott00 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @09:30AM
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Does the protocol actually make it impossible, or is it just not implemented by current OS/hardware?
Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by vlovich123 on Thursday May 23, 2019 @03:10PM
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Definitely just that the HW hasn't caught up.
https://www.netdevconf.org/0x13/session.html?talk-quic-offlo...
Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by nhf on Monday May 20, 2019 @03:23PM
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Can't wait for the IETF standardization process to finish up! https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.htm...
Re:Employing QUIC Protocol to Optimize Uber’s App Performance
by kevin_thibedeau on Monday May 20, 2019 @05:32PM
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You'll just get more JavaScript piled on as managers insist on having X monetization feature deployed.