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Re:Linux distros without systemd by acdha on Monday May 20, 2019 @11:50AM (#19961652)
> When there was a problem with a sysvinit procedure, one could simply fix it. As a result, mostly nobody ever had a problem with it.

To the extent that this isn't flat-out wrong, it's only because SysV init had so few features and so the actual patch had to go to one of many different upstreams. Having had to fix the same classes of problem in hundreds of different places like that has given me an appreciation for how long it's been since I've needed to do anything with systemd other than use it.

One important thing to remember is that the ability to have a standard way to start a process, as a non-privileged user, keep it running, with logging, etc. is something which has been standardized in the Windows world since the early 90s. It's really nice not to keep having to spend time working around the lack of a check-box competition feature for a quarter of a century.

Re:Linux distros without systemd by marcosdumay on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @08:24AM (#19969466)
> it's only because SysV init had so few features and so the actual patch had to go to one of many different upstreams

Yes.

Yet systemd is unfixable. The fact that it does too much was the most popular complaint at the time it got pushed into every distro... while I disagree, my main concern is that it's unmaintainable.