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Re:Tech Jobs Lead to the Middle Class, But Not for the Masses by BurningFrog on Sunday May 19, 2019 @09:17PM (#19956795)
I recommend to everyone to get outside your tribe and comfort zones and spend real time with people who are genuinely different than you.

For me, the biggest such time was being a conscript in my small European country. Not a great time, but holy shit, did it open my eyes to the existence of people I would never have thought were real!

Emigrating to California was comparatively a mild culture shock. Turns out I had more in common with muslim Pakistani software engineers than farm boys from half an hour outside my home town.

Re:Tech Jobs Lead to the Middle Class, But Not for the Masses by wincy on Monday May 20, 2019 @05:53AM (#19958809)
I work as a software professional in the US Midwest. A few times conversations about what the average American citizen looks like, and I remind my coworkers that it’s not us, and if they want to view a more accurate cross section of society to visit the DMV.
Re:Tech Jobs Lead to the Middle Class, But Not for the Masses by wrong_variable on Monday May 20, 2019 @12:00AM (#19957428)
> Emigrating to California was comparatively a mild culture shock. Turns out I had more in common with muslim Pakistani software engineers than farm boys from half an hour outside my home town.

Are you are Muslim ? If I dropped you in the middle of Pakistan I am pretty sure you would have nothing in common with most people in Pakistan.

Re:Tech Jobs Lead to the Middle Class, But Not for the Masses by Buge on Monday May 20, 2019 @12:29AM (#19957525)
>Are you are Muslim ?

BurningFrog is not Muslim. BurningFrog was pointing out that religious difference between BurningFrog and BurningFrog's coworkers (muslim Pakistani software engineers).

>If I dropped you in the middle of Pakistan I am pretty sure you would have nothing in common with most people in Pakistan.

That's pretty much the point BurningFrog was making. BurningFrog has a lot of similarities with software engineers willing to move to California even if they're of different religions and nationalities. But BurningFrog was very different from "most people in" "[BurningFrog's] small European country". And BurningFrog is similarly very different from "most people in Pakistan".

Re:Tech Jobs Lead to the Middle Class, But Not for the Masses by BurningFrog on Monday May 20, 2019 @10:38AM (#19960736)
Exactly.

To be fair, one reason I got along so well with people from every corner of the planet writing software in Silicon Valley was just that I had learned about strangers in the military.