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Re:Reckless Loans Devastated a Generation of Taxi Drivers by Spooky23 on Sunday May 19, 2019 @07:39PM (#19956313)
Whenever you have situations defined by some financial fuckery (or “innovation”), you end up with “unanticipated consequences” that your grandma could anticipate.

Anything can be collateralized, including things that don’t have stable value. In our quest to provide stimulus, fiscal policy has made capital so cheap that all sorts of dumb things are possible.

There’s no scenario where some dude off the boat from Pakistan or Haiti without assets should be able to borrow $1M for the right to drive a single cab. This story makes the exploitive and scummy Uber/Lyft business model seem ok in comparison.

Re:Reckless Loans Devastated a Generation of Taxi Drivers by bko on Sunday May 19, 2019 @08:17PM (#19956486)
> Anything can be collateralized, including things that don’t have stable value

The article doesn't mention collateralization so I don't see your point. There is collateral in that the person is using a loan to buy a valuable item, so that item is used as collateral.

> There’s no scenario where some dude off the boat from Pakistan or Haiti without assets should be able to borrow $1M for the right to drive a single cab. This story makes the exploitive and scummy Uber/Lyft business model seem ok in comparison.

Do you suggest limiting loans to only dudes that aren't "off the boat"? Again, it's not in the banks interest to lend to these borrowers if they have no intention of paying it back or at an asset value that will fall.

It's unfortunate that there is artificial scarcity for these medallions that resulted absurd market values. But most businesses require some sort of financing. Few business owners have liquid capital they can use to get their business up and running. This is especially true for many entrepreneurial immigrants coming to this country.

Re:Reckless Loans Devastated a Generation of Taxi Drivers by Spooky23 on Sunday May 19, 2019 @08:47PM (#19956655)
> Do you suggest limiting loans to only dudes that aren't "off the boat"?

I suggest that with a revenue + collateral based loan, you should write loans that the borrowers can understand and pay back. The off the boat folks don’t have the financial awareness or education to understand what’s happening. Their willingness to work as hard as necessary is exploited.

Read the article. It’s absolutely in the interest of the lender to write a non-performing loan, because they make money off of the fees or can sell the obligation to some other entity or seize the medallion.

Re:Reckless Loans Devastated a Generation of Taxi Drivers by bigj0n on Sunday May 19, 2019 @08:00PM (#19956399)
What is exploitive about uber/lyft?
Re:Reckless Loans Devastated a Generation of Taxi Drivers by Spooky23 on Sunday May 19, 2019 @08:44PM (#19956626)
They pay drivers less than the operating cost of the car.

Basically, drivers exchange quick cash for accelerated burn of the value of their vehicle.