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Re:The rise of the sober bar by slenk on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:43PM (#19941266)
"but also in order to discourage and punish drunken behavior"

No club is trying to discourage patrons to have drinks.

Also, some people like conversation. You can't have that at a nightclub

Re:The rise of the sober bar by athroway on Friday May 17, 2019 @01:14PM (#19941570)
Depends where you live. Many clubs display prohibitive/punitive fares on purpose, by the owners' own admission - not everyone is a rational market agent.

In many clubs there are also areas (usually smoking ones, but also backrooms, lounge areas, and so on) where the sound is muted and conversations (and other things) easily take place.