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Re:Third fatal Tesla Autopilot crash renews questions about ... by kolinko on Friday May 17, 2019 @03:44AM (#19937265)
I rented out Tesla S recently with my friends to try out - doing SF to Monterey and back.

When I was driving, holding hands on a wheel all the time, the car kept giving me notices to put hands back on the wheel. After the third time it refused to reengage the autopilot.

I guess my grip wasn’t strong enough for it to notice.

On the way back my friend did a few short stretches letting go of the wheel completely (still fully alert and hands an inch away), and the car failed to notice.

Re:Third fatal Tesla Autopilot crash renews questions about ... by taneq on Friday May 17, 2019 @08:36AM (#19938891)
It's based on wheel torque, not grip or anything. People have bypassed the check by wedging an orange in one of the gaps in the steering wheel (so its weight applies a constant torque to the wheel).

(This based on /r/teslamotors so it could be out of date or wrong. >.> )

Re:Third fatal Tesla Autopilot crash renews questions about ... by kwhitefoot on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:09PM (#19940894)
The orange seems to be an urban legend, there are several Youtube videos showing it not working. Perhaps it used to. tesla have also recently update the software so that it requires more frequent applications of turning force. For a while after that the car kept disabling Autosteer because kit thought I wasn't attentive enough.
Re:Third fatal Tesla Autopilot crash renews questions about ... by physicsyogi on Friday May 17, 2019 @01:05PM (#19941484)
One of my friends has a Model S and attaches a wrist weight to the wheel when he's on long interstate trips.