SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships

Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by indrax on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:37PM (#19935353)

An SAT score is an assessment of how well you will do in college. It's not something you can earn or deserve. If someone does less well than you but came from a much worse school district, why shouldn't a predictor take that into account?

If this were almost any other example of adding a modifier to correct for a bias in an initial scoring system, nobody would bat an eye, and we'd be discussing specifics.

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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by hermitdev on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:58PM (#19935491)

It's not an assessment of how well you will do, it's an assessment of how well you are prepared for college.

Big difference.

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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by indrax on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:13PM (#19935589)

That is incorrect.

What would "well prepared" mean here anyway?

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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by bloaf on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:17AM (#19936224)

Probably something along the lines of: Without accommodation, being able to learn, participate, and demonstrate competency in a series of courses which presume a student's mastery of information presented through secondary education.

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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by indrax on Friday May 17, 2019 @09:57AM (#19939632)

Ok. If we take that definition, is there any reason a test shouldn't consider whether a student had a very good school and learned half of what they were given, or a very poor school and learned everything they were exposed to? (a contrived case, of course)

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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by bloaf on Friday May 17, 2019 @11:11AM (#19940332)

I suspect your question has an unmarked asterisk, which is that the students end up with similar standardized test scores and GPA. For that to happen, it must be the case that a student at the good school can get good grades while learning only half the material, which seems not possible.

And so the answer is that colleges already can and should take into account % learning through GPA.

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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by indrax on Sunday May 19, 2019 @11:28AM (#19953739)

Yes similar test scores, for the GPA it might depend on how much we trust the scoring from the good school.

I was imagining that the good school presented more and better information, (perhaps more at the style and pacing of a good college classroom,) While the poor school may not have even presented all the information, or done so in a rushed way. (Focusing on that majority of students bound for community college.)

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