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Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by o_p on Sunday May 12, 2019 @02:56PM (#19893726)
Seems 90s christian soccer-mom puritanism is making a comeback. I wonder how ultra violent gore action is somewhat passable but showing a bit of female skin is a no-no, US morals are funny.
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by SOLAR_FIELDS on Sunday May 12, 2019 @09:34PM (#19895815)
Europe/AUSNZL has the yang to America’s yin as most people know - showing skin is ok, but any violence is a big no-no. It’s a nice quick way to paint a broad stroke of cultural differences between America and rest of western world
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by gcatalfamo on Sunday May 12, 2019 @03:11PM (#19893800)
While not related to the violence in MK, I also tend to think that if you get triggered by everything, you stop accepting other perspectives that don't openly concur with your way of thinking.

Just like in Farenheit 451

Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by fwip on Sunday May 12, 2019 @09:36PM (#19895828)
This article is about the game developers. Are you suggesting that they are largely composed of 90s christian soccer-mom puritans? Or are you posting without knowing what's going on?
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by erikpukinskis on Sunday May 12, 2019 @03:38PM (#19893999)
What is soccer mom puritanism? I've never heard of that.
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by dqybh on Sunday May 12, 2019 @03:49PM (#19894085)
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by TeMPOraL on Sunday May 12, 2019 @05:01PM (#19894548)
I knew the term, but holy hell, I didn't realize it was created and used as a positive description. I've always thought of the term and the image it conveyed as being strictly derogatory / insulting.
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by DoreenMichele on Sunday May 12, 2019 @06:13PM (#19894915)
Given how much hostility homemakers get in the US, it may not have been as positive as you imagine. I didn't find the article as shockingly positive as your remark led me to expect it to be.

I think of soccer mom in relatively neutral terms, but my feeling tends to be that it means "she's merely someone with no life for well-meaning but misguided ideas and not because she's outright depraved." Like it's an attempt to say "full time moms: not as bad as we usually think they are."

Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by erikpukinskis on Monday May 13, 2019 @11:22PM (#19906528)
Anti-women groups use it in a derogatory way, so if you're in those communities that's how you'd see it used. Similar to how many people use feminism as an epithet.
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:00AM (#19907640)
I'm not in any anti-women groups, though I've known or read some people with anti-suburban bent (or rather, against American-style suburbia and suburban life), which is where I guess I must've picked up these connotations.

As for feminism, yes, I know a lot of people who use "feminism" as epithet and justifiably so, though one usually tries to attach some word to distinguish the crazies from those actually helping women; people I know in meatspace usually call it "belligerent feminism". A lot of those people are women! They prefer someone advocating for their rights instead of the people who use it as a pretext to destroy others or win spotlight for themselves; since the latter kind essentially appropriated the word "feminism" in public consciousness, these women decided to disassociate themselves from the movement.

Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by erikpukinskis on Sunday May 19, 2019 @01:47PM (#19954464)
If they have a category for "belligerent feminism" it sounds like they're still feminists and therefore they're not just "associating" with the movement, they ARE the movement!

Personally I don't let cranks define words for me. That includes feminist cranks and conservative cranks alike.

"Public consciousness" is worth paying attention to, but I'm not rewriting my dictionary based on it.

Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by erikpukinskis on Monday May 13, 2019 @11:20PM (#19906518)
Do you have a better link? That one doesn't mention soccer mom puritanism.
Re:What It's Like to Work on Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal... by xienze on Sunday May 12, 2019 @06:04PM (#19894872)
>I wonder how ultra violent gore action is somewhat passable

Well it’s because that slippery slope that everyone says doesn’t exist actually does. Recall that the original Mortal Kombat caused all sorts of controversy when it was first released (Doom as well). Compare the relatively tame violence in MK1 to what we have now in MK11, it’s what happens when society collectively shrugs their shoulders and says “it’s just a [game|movie]”.

That nudity is still taboo in games and other media is more a reflection of no one bothering to push the envelope like they did with violence.