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Re:Why what we think we know about schizophrenia is wrong by DanBC on Saturday May 11, 2019 @06:08PM (#19888680)
Ann doesn't want to join a creative writing group for mentally ill people, she wants to join a creative writing group.

Bob doesn't want a work-like scheme for mentally ill people, he wants to keep his current job and wants advice about disclosing mental illness to his employer and asking for reasonable adjustments.

These are the things that me and my friends have been campaigning for for all these years- a socially inclusive recovery model.

Re:Why what we think we know about schizophrenia is wrong by jdietrich on Saturday May 11, 2019 @10:36PM (#19889768)
This. It's difficult to establish and maintain a sense of normalcy and social integration when you're only being offered a sort of tacit ghettoisation. Support groups can offer very useful support, but they can also become a trap of mutually-reinforcing pathology. Psychiatric inpatient units are a really difficult place to get better, precisely because you're surrounded by a lot of deeply troubled people who generally would rather be anywhere else.

The Camphill Movement offers an exemplary model of how people with learning difficulties can be integrated into a genuine community. What barriers are preventing us from offering similarly strong integration for people with severe and enduring mental illness? Why are so many people with moderately severe mental health problems being excluded from society for lack of relatively modest accommodations?