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Re:Google Creates 'Dedicated Placement' in Search Results fo... by ivanbakel on Saturday May 11, 2019 @11:56AM (#19886766)
I think it's highly naive to suggest that Google's leadership is operating in complete ignorance of their own product. This is the company of analytics - whatever approach is being taken is probably backed by a gargantuan amount of data.

That doesn't mean it's good for the web, but "what (the most) users want" is Google's strong point. And this is par for the "the internet is now 4 websites" course, so I don't think it's possible to claim that this isn't "how the internet works" anymore.

Re:Google Creates 'Dedicated Placement' in Search Results fo... by marcosdumay on Saturday May 11, 2019 @12:32PM (#19886976)
If they are operating on top of a mountain of data, then they have a problem (what honestly would be good, even too good to believe).

People are not the memoryless automata that statistics handles best. People react positively to a bad change up to a point where they don't anymore, you don't even need to keep changing to trigger this.

Re:Google Creates 'Dedicated Placement' in Search Results fo... by mercer on Saturday May 11, 2019 @03:10PM (#19887857)
I really hope you're right, but who's to say Google might not be one of the few that manages to correctly figure out how far they can go based on their historically unprecedented amount of data? I wouldn't rely on it, either way.
Re:Google Creates 'Dedicated Placement' in Search Results fo... by astazangasta on Saturday May 11, 2019 @03:26PM (#19887946)
>This is the company of analytics - whatever approach is being taken is probably backed by a gargantuan amount of data.

Take a look outside your window. Have you understood quantum physics yet? No? I guess all of the available data doesn't help you, because it still requires effort and careful observation to glean insights from it.

The same goes for Google. Data by itself does not guarantee anything. You can look at a piece of data and not reach any conclusion, or reach the wrong conclusion. More data does not mean more insight.

In my field (biology) we are suddenly drowning in data - we are producing new datasets much faster than we can analyze them. Our understanding is not increasing at a commensurate pace because we lack the ability to turn these data into useful knowledge.

Re:Google Creates 'Dedicated Placement' in Search Results fo... by JoshMnem on Sunday May 12, 2019 @12:50AM (#19890215)
I don't think it's "what users want" as much as it's "what makes the most money out of the things that we can convince users to want". And "what can we manipulate our engineers into believing about what they are building so that they won't protest".
Re:Google Creates 'Dedicated Placement' in Search Results fo... by CamperBob2 on Saturday May 11, 2019 @03:37PM (#19888000)
The thing about data is it only tells you about the past.