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Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by intuitionist on Friday May 10, 2019 @02:25PM (#19880722)
If you’re joining a $60 billion company with thousands of employees expecting rocket-ship growth, that’s kind of on you, I think. You wouldn’t expect that from a public company; why would you from a similarly sized company that just happens to be pre-IPO?
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by marnett on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:32PM (#19881432)
Amazon in 2016 was $502 a share, it is $1900 now

Microsoft in 2016 was $51, $127 now

Facebook was $97, $189 now

We're not even talking about rocket-ship growth here. We are talking about option strike prices losing money in one of the most favorable economic time periods where massive, healthy public business did have monstrous growth.

I would have at least expected price parity with other large companies - even that assumption would have been wrong.

Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by pavlov on Friday May 10, 2019 @06:07PM (#19882713)
The Silicon Valley giants don't do options anymore, but RSUs (restricted stock units) which are simply share awards. There's no strike price to worry about, but of course it's a bit of a disappointment if you expected Uber to be a $100B company out of the gate.

Still, Uber employees will be happy that they can finally sell those RSU awards (in six months when the lockup expires).

Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by 8ytecoder on Saturday May 11, 2019 @02:43PM (#19887679)
I can’t speak for sure but that’s a little unlikely. RSUs are taxed on vesting. Bad idea when employees can’t sell a portion of it to pay the tax.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by pavlov on Saturday May 11, 2019 @07:39PM (#19889089)
Uber, Airbnb and the rest definitely give RSUs. Details may vary but they may use contracts like “double trigger vesting” where you don’t actually receive the shares until they’re publicly traded.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by intuitionist on Friday May 10, 2019 @04:32PM (#19881953)
Expecting price parity with other large companies, okay. But the expectation in 2016 wasn’t for Facebook etc. to be at today’s prices in 2019, or they would have been priced higher then.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by usaar333 on Friday May 10, 2019 @10:00PM (#19884037)
Even parity with cash. Investing in tech (say vgt) has had 90% returns over the past three years.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by YeahSureWhyNot on Friday May 10, 2019 @06:59PM (#19883072)
I think the story with Amazon and Facebook are from being over.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by JMTQp8lwXL on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:55PM (#19881641)
That can be a tricky comparison to make over time, due to share splits and merges. Apple has split 4 times, for example.

Taking these numbers at face value, I can't know if they account for it.

Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by marnett on Friday May 10, 2019 @04:32PM (#19881949)
Within the timeframe I listed [2016-2018] none of the companies I listed performed a stock split. Neither did Apple. Apple's most recent stock split was 2014.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by MAGZine on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:38PM (#19881500)
How much has Google grown in the last three years? Or Facebook? Or Netflix? Or Atlassian? Uber not growing in value in three years, in the hottest economy, is a disaster
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by swypych on Friday May 10, 2019 @08:35PM (#19883613)
I suspect you mean stock price growth only, I think the hype of Uber is now catching up with them.

Uber most definitely grew over the last three years.

Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by kingnothing on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:37PM (#19881481)
It's very reasonable for employees over the past 3 years to expect growth.

Over the past 3 years:

FB is up 60%

AAPL is up 98%

AMZN is up 261%

NFLX is up 363%

GOOG is up 60%

Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by zsiddique on Friday May 10, 2019 @06:20PM (#19882808)
You left off TEAM (Atlassian) up 199% over the past 3 years.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by akchin on Friday May 10, 2019 @04:50PM (#19882108)
It shouldn't matter a lot since I am 99% sure that they were issuing RSUs at that time and not options. So the strike price based on 3-years ago valuation is not relevant. Also, I am sure the number of RSUs you got at Uber should have been more than the RSUs at FAANG, to compensate for some of the risks. Now, if an individual Uber employee came out ahead, vs. having joined a FAANG really depends on the offers they had.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by Blackthorn on Saturday May 11, 2019 @12:16AM (#19884516)
It matters a ton. You get your rsu grant sized based on the stock price at the time of the grant, just like options. If that price goes up, you make money... Just like options.
Re:Uber opens at $42 per share by ytpete on Saturday May 11, 2019 @02:31AM (#19884915)
It's not just like options though, is the point they were making - if the price goes down, you still make money with RSUs, just not as much.