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Re:Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019 by pjc50 on Friday May 10, 2019 @11:47AM (#19878874)
People aren't dismissing it because they don't have it, they're dismissing it because the UX is terrible, it's too high maintenance, and the future of any individual solution uncertain.

In some ways it's like pre-iPhone mobile apps. They absolutely did exist, but were mostly too much hassle until they could be seamlessly downloaded from the App Store, sandboxed, and held to quality standards. We're still in the Symbian era of home automation.

(My wife worked at a home automation / security company about a decade ago. It had basically all the same problems back then too, but for a couple of years I had an internet-connected doorbell)

Re:Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019 by tonyb on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:07PM (#19879836)
As a counterpoint, yet completely anecdotal, point of view, I've had none of the issues you describe.

Once I install a Z-wave light switch and add it to my hub (a very simple process) there is virtually no maintenance. I rarely use the phone app to control things but I reliably get push notifications for things I want to know about (forgot to lock the front door, garage door being opened unexpected, door unlocked by specific people, etc.).

Most of my interaction happens via Alex and it basically just works.

Re:Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019 by altec3 on Friday May 10, 2019 @06:13PM (#19882763)
I have a decent amount of smart home devices, and I too have had none of the issues described.

It seems most people in this thread talking about the issues with Smart Home stuff have never actually used any Smart Home stuff.

Re:Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019 by stickfigure on Friday May 10, 2019 @11:58AM (#19879008)
How many people in your house know how to operate your (presumably non-smart) AV system, with its receiver and four different remotes? When someone new comes over, how long would it take them to figure out how to watch a movie?
Re:Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019 by pjc50 on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:11PM (#19879150)
There's a TV remote and a satellite remote. Press the "Netflix" button on the TV remote.

(Having said that, I failed to watch a DVD at the weekend; the Xbox wouldn't play it as it was region locked, then I realised that I'd not hooked up the DVD player in the six months since buying the television, and it flaked out trying to play on my laptop.)

None of this makes me think that a "home automation" system will be any more convenient or reliable. I've only just made my peace with the "smart TV". I wanted a dumb TV, but will admit that the smartness has mostly delivered. It even seems to have HDMI-CEC that works with the satellite box from a different manufacturer. It still occasionally nags about updates or informs me that something it shipped with no longer works or requires a new EULA.

I have dealt with the complexity of "AV recievers", whatever they are exactly, by not knowing why I might need one and not having one.

The one feature I may end up building is the ability to listen to the TV in the kitchen, which I may do by running thirty feet of wire.

Re:Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019 by mike00632 on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:11PM (#19879148)
Woah, that is a right. I'm thinking now of such common phrases when you visit someone's house: "Can you turn on the TV?", "How do you change the volume?", "Which remote do I use?".

Recently my sister's response was, "Actually, you use the X-box controller." What a future we live in.

Re:Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019 by HeyLaughingBoy on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:03PM (#19881122)
Psst! They make XBox controllers that look just like a "regular" remote.