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Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by inferiorhuman on Thursday May 09, 2019 @03:59PM (#19871774)
Most of Postgres is standard SQL. It's just that most non-Postgres databases do not implement standard SQL very well.

Sure, but the non-standard enhancements like JSON support are part of what sets Postgres apart from the competition IMO.

Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by wtetzner on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:31PM (#19872121)
SQL:2016 includes support for JSON: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL:2016
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by ioltas on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:59PM (#19874105)
Postgres 12, whose development has reached feature freeze and is in a stability period, has added some support for JSON path as of SQL:2016: https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=commit...

The release is planned for roughly next September/October.

Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by inferiorhuman on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:46PM (#19872267)
Interesting, I wonder which databases actually implement SQL:2016 (and JSON as standardized). JSON support in Postgres predates SQL:2016 in any case.
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by crazysmoove on Thursday May 09, 2019 @05:51PM (#19872786)
I think Oracle does. My impression is that PostgreSQL sort-of "invented" JSON support in the db, then Oracle (and probably others) added JSON support with a different syntax, and then Oracle got their version defined into the SQL standard. I'm half-guessing here, but it's based on what I've gleaned from Markus Winand's [0] excellent compatibility tables in his slides [1].

[0] https://modern-sql.com/

[1] https://modern-sql.com/slides/ModernSQL-2019-05-08.pdf, for example

(Edited for formatting.)

Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by irrational on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:33PM (#19872142)
Wait, what major relational databases don't support JSON? Oracle and Sql Server definitely do. Does MySQL not support JSON?
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by ken on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:35PM (#19872157)
SQLite (the most popular RDBMS today) doesn't, unless you count extensions. And of course, none of them use the same syntax or functions or data types.
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by matharmin on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:49PM (#19872284)
While it is technically an optional extension in sqlite, it is part of the main source distribution, and very easy to enable.
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by nbevans on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:27AM (#19875809)
And why wouldn't you count SQLite extensions? Its JSON1 extension is practically ubiquitous.
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by marcolussetti on Thursday May 09, 2019 @05:41PM (#19872711)
If I recall correctly, Oracle's support for JSON is not at the same level as PostgreSQL. By that I mean seamlessly store JSON as a data type like any other. In Oracle JSON is stored as VARCHAR/CLOB and then you implement tests to validate whereas in PostgreSQL and MSSQL is its own data type.
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by GordonS on Friday May 10, 2019 @02:38AM (#19875566)
Similar story with SQL Server. I believe JSON support is a bit better in SQL Server 2019, but still far lacking behind that of Postgres.
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by lefred on Thursday May 09, 2019 @06:20PM (#19873000)
Hi, MySQL supports JSON (it has a native JSON datatype) but it also support NoSQL (CRUD operations). For more details, check https://www.slideshare.net/lefred.descamps/pyconx-python-mys... or https://www.slideshare.net/lefred.descamps/oracle-code-roma-...
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by jade12 on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:12PM (#19871919)
Doesn't every major RDBMS support JSON out of the box these days?
Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by zaarn on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:34PM (#19872151)
(Last I checked atleast) JSON isn't as well supported on MySQl or MSSQL compared to PG.

In PG, a JSON column is so well integrated that you can do all sorts of crazy stuff (indices over JSON queries is my favorite). You could build an entire RDBMS on top of PG's JSON column.

Re:We Can Do Better Than SQL by atwebb on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:52PM (#19872313)
MSSQL indexes and provides dot notation/object query from 2016 forward, schemas are supported as well.