Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by lima on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:31AM
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Yes - for security reasons. Chrome OS has a full verified boot chain, starting from the BIOS, like a smartphone.
You cannot tamper with Chrome OS or access user data without password even with physical access to the device.
None of this works with a 3rd party OS, so you have to disable the secured boot and possible re-flash a different BIOS (similar to unprotecting the bootloader on a phone).
Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by Crinus on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:49AM
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And like most "security reasons" they just take away control from the user and give it to whoever implements that security.
Security against whom, i wonder. The narrative says, against malicious actors, but way more often than not, it ends up being security against the computer's owner.
Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by wstrange on Thursday May 09, 2019 @12:02PM
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The procedure to get around the locked bootloader is documented.
For the vast majority of users, a secure by default laptop is a win.
Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by dontbenebby on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:47AM
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>Chrome OS has a full verified boot chain, starting from the BIOS, like a smartphone. You cannot tamper with Chrome OS or access user data without password even with physical access to the device. [emphasis added]
Ooooh interesting, I'd love to read more about this.
Does this logic apply to iOS as well? (Can't evil maid an iPhone due to verified BIOS?) What about macOS?
Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by saagarjha on Thursday May 09, 2019 @03:52PM
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iOS has a verified boot chain that you cannot disable, and newer Macs have this too but you can disable it.
Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by klodolph on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:31AM
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One of the things about Chromebooks that make them different is no BIOS altogether, right?
Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by lima on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:32AM
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They do have a (customized) UEFI BIOS based on CoreBoot.
Re:All Chromebooks will also be Linux laptops going forward
by klodolph on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:39AM
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CoreBoot, BIOS, and UEFI are alternatives to each other. While you might have firmware that has various compatibility modes, my understanding is that CoreBoot does not provide a BIOS interface at all, and you need the SeaBIOS payload if you want BIOS from CoreBoot.
The only Chromebook I ever did this with was the original Chromebook Pixel, and flashing a regular BIOS onto it to let me treat it like any other computer required specifically opening the laptop up to remove the Write-Protect screw on the motherboard.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Remove+the+Write+Protect+Screw/...