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Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by kriro on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:10AM (#19866291)
In Germany consumers certainly do not prefer automatic transmissions (I do and it puzzles me why most people don't). So there's at least some culture/history involved in these preferences. I'd assume "wanting control" is also a bit of a cultural issue.

In the end, I think/fear that on average lazyness wins every time.

Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by Quarrelsome on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:02AM (#19867415)
> I do and it puzzles me why most people don't

The feeling of slamming into second as you come out of a corner in a little sports car. In an automatic, its just a pedal and the wheel, in a manual you physically engage the warp mode. It feels good, gives a greater sense of power in your actions and also contributes to enjoyable familiar muscle memory. Humans dig physical ritual.

Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by rashomon on Thursday May 09, 2019 @07:27AM (#19867172)
I do think there is more of a feeling of attachment to the machinery with manual transmissions.

Germany is a huge exporter of precision-engineering so there might be a cultural sentiment there.

Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by jdietrich on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:14AM (#19867505)
Manual transmissions are the default in most of Europe. They're cheaper, they're more efficient and they make the most of small engines with limited torque.
Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by dsfyu404ed on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:53AM (#19867806)
>They're cheaper

Not substantially.

>they're more efficient

Not any more.

>they make the most of small engines with limited torque.

Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner!

People like manuals because they can choose when to up-shift whereas the guys programming the automatic transmission will program it to up-shift as soon as they think they can get away with (for fuel economy and emissions). With a manual you can let your 1L hornets nest scream along at 4k all the time giving you close to peak power on tap whenever you want it. Basically manuals are a hack around regulations that force manufactures to build cars with performance characteristics nobody wants (under-powered engines and transmissions that up-shift at the drop of a hat). Those regulations are much stronger in Europe so the value proposition of a manual transmission is better there.

Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by ric2b on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:35AM (#19928873)
Most of the time I drive economically and up-shift very early. Sometimes I want to have some fun and fly out of corners at 4 or 5K on my small 1200cc car.

Can't do that with most automatics.

Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by jfengel on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:33PM (#19872138)
force manufactures to build cars with performance characteristics nobody wants

Well... performance characteristics that everybody wants -- for everybody else. They themselves want warp drive, but prefer everybody else help hold down the price of gasoline and the carbon content of the atmosphere.

Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by chosenbreed37 on Thursday May 09, 2019 @10:24AM (#19868544)
I wish they were cheaper. I paid a premium for an automatic. It also limited the vehicles I could choose from.
Re:“Users want control” is a shoulder shrug by kkarakk on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:29AM (#19866394)
automatic acceleration feels really neutered in every car i've come across, being in control feels better than waiting for the car to kick in automatically.

then again i ride bikes too and prefer a more active driving experience