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Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by latch on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @01:45AM (#19846933)
What seems to often go unsaid in these discussions is that the choice isn't between cloud and colo. There's a third, hugely popular and mature option: dedicated providers - which address all of your issues.

It's convenient for cloud vendors to have people believe the choice is between them or having to deal with hardware.

Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by yzmtf2008 on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @06:55PM (#19854202)
But isn't dedicated providers a subset of cloud providers? I can see how having a focused provider with a narrow mission might be beneficial in some cases, but I can't say it's that much of an advantage compared to the ecosystem & convenience of a cloud provider.
Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by dhruvkar on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @04:46AM (#19847591)
what's an example of a dedicated provider?

I also worked in ITOps at a medium-ish company and we were moving our colo to Azure, when I left.

Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by latch on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @05:50AM (#19847906)
There are thousands (tens of thousands?). OVH is probably the biggest by server count. Softlayer arguably had the most potential (prior to its IBM acquisition). Hivelocity, ReliableSite, WebNX, Hetzner, LeaseWeb, Online.net, DataPacket, QuadraNet, PhoenixNap, ...
Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by arianvanp on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @05:18AM (#19847752)
Hetzner, scaleway and packet.net come to mind
Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by dijit on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @07:28AM (#19848419)
i3d.net will give you a machine, with as hands-on support as you want up to even patching the OS.
Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by acjacobson on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @05:20AM (#19847758)
Rackspace
Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by jethro_tell on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @12:29PM (#19850986)
The guys that are selling managed services on AWS?
Re:Rolling your own servers with Kubernetes by Karunamon on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @02:38PM (#19852197)
They sell all of those those things. RS has their fingers in many pies, even though some of them appear to conflict at first glance.