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Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @10:49AM (#19839918)
Hopefully this will make us ditch the planet and finally look towards the stars.

But I fear it will actually lead us towards an "Interstellar" future: where our inter-planetary progress is hampered by this single planet that we want to save.

Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by nulagrithom on Monday May 06, 2019 @11:32AM (#19840325)
We're increasingly incapable of surviving on a planet that's perfectly suited to us.

There's no chance we "look towards the stars" if we can't fix the ground.

Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by inflatableDodo on Monday May 06, 2019 @12:36PM (#19841047)
If we hadn't looked to the stars in the first place, then we'd have a much worse idea of what is wrong with the ground than we currently do and technologies such as solar panels might not have entered commercial development. We are going to find this much more difficult to fix without a space industry.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:13PM (#19841519)
there’s always going to be issues that need solving. but it’s these extremely conservative ideas that give me pause. we can’t solve everything. we need to go to the stars before another asteroid strikes and wipes us all out.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by The_Stone on Monday May 06, 2019 @11:15AM (#19840171)
You can't migrate every person on the planet to another one. And we still haven't found any planets remotely as habitable as our own, nor solved the problems related to long-term space travel or terraforming. And above all else, why the hell would you be content with throwing away Earth, the most livable planet we know of? The idea of saving the human race by just going somewhere else is laughable.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by inflatableDodo on Monday May 06, 2019 @11:23AM (#19840234)
>You can't migrate every person on the planet to another one.

I completely agree, none of them are suitable. On the other hand, space habitats built from asteroids are a practical possibility.

>"If the asteroids are ultimately used as the material resource for the building of new colonies, and if by constructing new colonies near asteroids relatively little reaction mass is wasted in transportation, the area of land that is made available on the space frontier can be estimated. Assuming 13 km of total area per person, it appears that space habitats might be constructed that would provide new lands with a total area some 3,000 times that of the Earth. For a very long time at least mankind can look toward resources so nearly inexhaustible that the current frustration of limits to growth can be replaced by a sense of openness and the absence of barriers to further human development."

From the NASA report, 'Space Settlements: A Design Study' - https://settlement.arc.nasa.gov/75SummerStudy/Table_of_Conte...

Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kaybe on Monday May 06, 2019 @12:42PM (#19841108)
We cannot damage the Earth enough for it to be a worse option than space habitats. We simply can't, even if we bomb all of the surface to oblivion, triple the amount of CO2 or even add more toxic gases.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by inflatableDodo on Monday May 06, 2019 @12:50PM (#19841217)
I'd say that rather depends on the design of the space habitat.

edit - also, while a space economy develops, the initially dangerous and messy environment is part of what will attract many of the first settlers. That and the money. Asteroid mining will be a goldrush.

Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:14PM (#19841527)
any massive planetary destruction (like asteroid strike) will solve this for us.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:10PM (#19841477)
we’re an asteroid strike away from perma death. single planet is not sustainable.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by inflatableDodo on Monday May 06, 2019 @11:16AM (#19840181)
Part of the reason I want to see massive populated orbitals and an economy develop in space is because I want to see this planet do better. We need a hope that isn't delineated by having a global government that enforces the number of children people have and having somewhere else to go is one of the long term solutions that could avoid this.

We could also bet on everyone becoming socially responsible, but while people are waiting for that to occur, I suggest we get really good at asteroid mining.

Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:15PM (#19841552)
completely agree. it needs to be done in parallel if we want any chance for survival.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by koonsolo on Monday May 06, 2019 @11:36AM (#19840354)
Do you mean ditch most of the animals too? Because it seems highly unlikely what we're going to take even 1% of animal species into space.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:11PM (#19841494)
we should not even consider taking any animals to space. let them be where they developed naturally. humans, on the other hand...
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by inflatableDodo on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:25PM (#19841661)
Given your views on asteroid impacts, that seems a bit short sighted.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:48PM (#19841903)
why? there’s been 7 extinction events so far.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by inflatableDodo on Monday May 06, 2019 @01:52PM (#19841951)
I think you can join mazt1 in paintbrushing flowers for the amusement of spectating bees.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by kmlx on Monday May 06, 2019 @02:34PM (#19842380)
the bees should already be considered extinct. and we have drones for this today.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by defterGoose on Monday May 06, 2019 @06:35PM (#19844626)
*citation needed
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by inflatableDodo on Monday May 06, 2019 @04:37PM (#19843581)
Nope, I give up. Volcano gods for the lot of you.