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Re:Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWar... by naasking on Thursday May 02, 2019 @04:49PM (#19812732)
> The whole idea of free speech rights rests on the assumption that speech can cause action.

No, free speech is a natural right. The recognition of free speech is not contingent on any outside factors aside from the recognition that humans speak just like they breath.

> There have been quite a few recent shooting sprees where the perpetrators either explicitly referenced online personae, or the investigation revealed they consumed these sources predominantly.

So? Did these shooters also go to the grocery store? It's ridiculous to ban Coca Cola because a shooter predominantly drank diet coke. You're a) inferring a spurious causation simply because you want there to be one, and b) even if there were a causation, that does not entail that the online personnae are in any way responsible for the shooter's actions.

> The idea that people aren’t influenced by what they read seems somewhat indefensible, anyway.

Who's defending that? The issue I'm raising is who's responsible for someone's actions. Speech is not action. The most widely recognized limitation on free speech is treating incitement to violence as violence. That's perfectly reasonable. Is that the case here? Doesn't seem like it, because if it were, they'd be charged with crimes.

Re:Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWar... by belltaco on Thursday May 02, 2019 @11:33PM (#19815311)
>So? Did these shooters also go to the grocery store? It's ridiculous to ban Coca Cola because a shooter predominantly drank diet coke.

This is ridiculous, if drinking diet coke made people violent and go on shooting sprees against innocent people, it'd be banned. We all know they're radicalized on places like 4chan, 8chan, Voat, Gab.ai, many alt-right subreddits, alt-right YouTube channels and Facebook accounts.

Re:Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWar... by naasking on Friday May 03, 2019 @12:28PM (#19819788)
> This is ridiculous, if drinking diet coke made people violent and go on shooting sprees against innocent people, it'd be banned. We all know they're radicalized on places like 4chan, 8chan, Voat, Gab.ai, many alt-right subreddits, alt-right YouTube channels and Facebook accounts.

And you can prove that these online sites cause people to go out and shoot people? Because actual studies on these topics have failed to support any such conclusion:

https://www.rand.org/randeurope/research/projects/internet-a...

Re:Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWar... by Fins on Friday May 03, 2019 @04:04PM (#19821770)
Would you also support deplatforming Sen. Sanders as well then? It was his supporter who went on a shooting spree, and I don't think he was a big fan of Jones or Milo.