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Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by astura on Thursday May 02, 2019 @12:42AM (#19804808)
The article GP posted addressed this (among a lot of other things... It's worth a read.)

>“Rachel’s landlord needs to make money. How could he/she possibly earn a profit under this scenario?”

>Here are many ways Rachel’s landlord could benefit:

>The landlord could purchase the property at a steep discount, such as through a foreclosure auction, short sale, estate sale, or by “driving for dollars” (making direct contact with the owners of distressed property.) This allows him/her to purchase the property significantly below market value.

>The landlord could be holding the property for the sake of inflation-protected wealth preservation, rather than as a cash flow investment. (Don’t assume all landlords share the goal of cash flow. Some simply want to diversify their assets.)

>The landlord could be making a speculative play on potential appreciation. (I don’t recommend this technique, but many landlords do this.)

>The landlord could have inherited the property. The landlord could have purchased the property decades ago, paid off the mortgage, and now enjoys the cash flow. They don’t want to sell/trade into a different property due to the hassle involved, so they let this property ride.

The other secret is, many people, at the end of the day, simply make very little to no money as landlords. My parents were landlords for many years and broke even for all those years thinking that the profit was going to be right around the corner. Never came. The steps to being successful at real estate is not 1) buy house 2) print money like a lot of people think going in.

The other thing is, their calculations take in opportunity costs of having your money in your house vs having it in a better performing asset, which a lot of people simply ignore as "not a cost."

It's also highly dependant on your local market which one is cheaper.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by snowwrestler on Thursday May 02, 2019 @10:12AM (#19808077)
The article the GP posted (which I read in its entirety) is rambling clickbait.

If there's a long list of situations in which owning is less expensive than renting, it is intellectually dishonest to then assert that they cost the same.

The key mental breakthrough for understanding homeownership is that it's just like renting, except you are the landlord as well as the renter. So if you can imagine a bunch of different ways in which a landlord makes money with a rental property, then you can start to imagine situations in which homeownership will be better than renting for you.

You can buy foreclosures, short sales, estate sales, or just contact someone to buy their house.

You can hold property for the benefit of inflation-protected wealth preservation (in fact, this is one of the main ways homeownership helps build wealth).

You can speculate on potential appreciation (in fact, many people do this when selecting where to buy).

You can inherit property, or (more under your control) you can pass property on to your children.

You can hold a piece of property for decades, pay off the mortgage, and enjoy the greater cashflow--in your case, from income that would have gone toward rent.

Etc.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by charlesdm on Thursday May 02, 2019 @02:47AM (#19805383)
In short: to make money in property, you need to be able to buy at a good price. You make your money when you buy, not when you sell.

Plenty of people buy investment properties generating them 2% a year thinking they're doing great!

This is however generally different to owning a house. If you want to own a house, it shouldn't really be seen as an investment, more as a place to live and put down some roots.

You shouldn't invest in putting the best kitchen in your rental property, but you can do that in your own house if you want to.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by c0vfefe on Friday May 03, 2019 @09:24AM (#19818157)
> You make your money when you buy, not when you sell.

That's a false dichotomy - we should "buy low, sell high." Obviously both events contribute to your total ROI.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by hinkley on Thursday May 02, 2019 @02:05PM (#19810680)
Rental prices are also going to be influenced by the prevailing interest rates when the property was mortgaged. If interest rates have gone up since then, the cost of buying versus renting tips in their favor.

1% may not seem like much, but consider that you only pay 3.33% of the amount owed every year on a 30 year mortgage. Not only are their monthly payments lower, but they pay more principal sooner.