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Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by CydeWeys on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @10:26PM (#19804011)
I'm renting in Manhattan right now and this is absolutely the case for me. At the same monthly cost, I'd have to live farther out in a less desirable location. A lot of apartments cost more to own in monthly taxes and fees than my entire monthly rent cost when I first moved here (though admittedly I had roommates). Note, I'm not talking about a mortgage; that'd be way more. I'm just talking about coop fees. You can spend more on them buying an apartment than it costs to rent a bedroom in a shared apartment. And as people like to say about rent, that is also just "throwing money away".
Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by irq11 on Thursday May 02, 2019 @12:10AM (#19804639)
I don’t think it’s fair to compare renting a room to buying an apartment (even a studio), but you don’t need to do that.

Right now, most properties in manhattan rent for less than their monthly carrying costs (including HOA fees). People have traditionally justified it via the mortgage interest and SALT tax deductions, but congress just blew the latter all to hell, and it’s making properties about 30% too expensive...

So many units have priced in the SALT tax deductions! The rent/buy calculation was borderline before, but now it’s just comically bad.