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Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by simonebrunozzi on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @10:07PM (#19803904)
I think I know what you're trying to do and I think it's well intentioned. However, I can already point out to mistakes in your own points.

Security and stability: in what sense? Owning a house explicitly means that you can't be evicted by the landlord, but there isn't any other significant feature that derives from owning the house.

Hedge against inflation or market forces (or "short position in real estate"): you can simply buy into a REIT, and enjoy similar benefits (actually, a much more diversified risk, which in most cases would be positive) compared to owning a single house.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by titanomachy on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @10:32PM (#19804049)
"can't be evicted by the landlord" is a pretty good benefit. Also, if rents go up a lot in your area, renters end up spending more on housing. When you buy, your cost of housing becomes more predictable in the long-term.

Interest rates can change as well but are less volatile than rents, and become less of a concern as you pay off more of your principal.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by haditab on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @10:49PM (#19804160)
Although that may be true, if the house is paid for by a loan, you have the additional insecurity that you need to pay $XXXX per month for the next 15-30 years. If something happens and you can't afford it anymore you risk foreclosure.
Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by twblalock on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:26PM (#19804381)
If a renter could not make the monthly payments it would result in eviction. Both eviction and foreclosure are bad for your credit, and both mean you need to find somewhere else to live.
Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by frobozz on Thursday May 02, 2019 @08:59AM (#19807380)
After those 15-30 years are up, you no longer have to pay that $XXXX per month.

In 20ish years, inflation is likely to have significantly reduced the value of $XXXX, it could have as little as half the purchasing power it does today. If renting, the rent is likely to increase (particularly if you move) so that you are still paying $XXXX in today's money. If repaying a mortgage, you are likely to be paying roughly $XXXX in absolute terms (depending on interest rate changes).

So yes, you are tying yourself to a risk that you will lose your house (and any difference between the outstanding loan and its sale value) if you lose your job over a certain period. However, after a certain period you are also reducing the risk that you won't be able to afford your housing costs if you lose your income.

Lenders are also more likely to consider a term extension to enable you to make more realistic payments, than a landlord is to agree to lower your rent.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by titanomachy on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:44PM (#19804498)
"If something happens and you can't afford it anymore you risk foreclosure."

That's assuming the home value has gone down in addition to losing your job or whatever. If the home has kept its value, you can probably use a line of credit to bridge while you sell the house.

Re:Housing Can’t Be Both Affordable and a Good Investment (2... by magicalhippo on Thursday May 02, 2019 @06:31AM (#19806394)
If something happens with my income I can just pay the interest for some time (several months to a year), which in my case is roughly half my monthly payment.

How is that if I were to rent?