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Re:Bikes, bowling balls, and the balancing act that is moder... by jandrese on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:21PM (#19801227)
The problem with this scheme is that fresh new plastic is incredibly cheap. A solvent based system like this basically has no chance of competing, even when getting the raw material for free. The end product won't be as good either thanks to all of the contamination.

I wonder if it would make sense to instead have dedicated areas in landfills where you put products that can't be reasonably recycled today in the hopes that in the future someone figures out a way to do it and can just tap into the neatly separated pile to get their raw materials? This is pretty speculative and optimistic. Plus it requires dump site operators to correctly guess which kind of materials are going to be useful in the future.

Re:Bikes, bowling balls, and the balancing act that is moder... by RandallBrown on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:47PM (#19801492)
A book I read as a kid was set in a future where they were out of oil and couldn't make new plastic. Plastic became very expensive and things like plastic bowls were used as signs of wealth. The plot involved kids who were taken and forced to mine plastic from old landfills.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ear,_the_Eye_and_the_Arm

Re:Bikes, bowling balls, and the balancing act that is moder... by smileysteve on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:57PM (#19801565)
> The plot involved kids who were taken and forced to mine plastic from old landfills.

So basically what 3rd World countries do with the U.S. electronics.

Re:Bikes, bowling balls, and the balancing act that is moder... by a1369209993 on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @09:17PM (#19803581)
> where you put products that can't be reasonably recycled today in the hopes that in the future someone figures out a way to do it

We have those; they're called landfills.

> neatly separated pile[s]

The problem is that most types of refuse are already semi-uniformly mixed at the household level, so you would have spend labor separating them, which might not be needed[0], so you might as well put off separation until know you need it.

0: Eg, if the most efficient way of recycling them turns out to be: dump the whole mess into vat of genetically engineered bacteria, and sift out the glass and metal bits when they build up.

Re:Bikes, bowling balls, and the balancing act that is moder... by jandrese on Thursday May 02, 2019 @10:19AM (#19808135)
"Genetically engineered bacteria" is basically pixie dust at this point. It's a potential solution, but we don't have the tech to know if it would even be practical.
Re:Bikes, bowling balls, and the balancing act that is moder... by a1369209993 on Friday May 03, 2019 @05:05PM (#19822263)
Er, yes, that's exactly my point.