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Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by ffffruit on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @08:55AM (#1979000)
"In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act" G. Orwell

I find the calls to get him assassinated or kidnap his son simply appalling.

Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by resdirector on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @09:57AM (#1979195)
Who's been calling to kidnap his son? I did a quick (1 minute) google search, but couldn't find a source.
Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by jacquesm on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @10:07AM (#1979226)
since deleted:

http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/green-lighting-assange/

google cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:e7JxvDK...

but that was after the edit

His parting words confirm it though:

" :lol: So much for ANY argument about Free Speech or whether Assange is Good or Evil.

Between having this post censored and the various death threats I’ve been reporting to the authorities and deleting, it’s very much proven that most of these ranters actually believe EXACTLY as I do, just not from a defending America point of view.

To all the Aussies out there – I totally approve of your attitude, though I do wish you’d read the comment thread before ranting. If you had, you’d have realized that I accepted that using Daniel was useless.

Think on this though – If the tables were turned, would you have responded any differently than I did. You responses and threats says you would have done as I did.

All,

This threaded has ended in a very odd Win-Win situation. The specifics of my idea were proven useless and finally removed by fiat (Your Win), but your responses – by and large – proved the lie of your underlying argument (My Win).

I’m also shocked that so many of you would lend me so much credence of perceived power and/or authority. I certainly never expected anyone other than my normal readers to engage in this thought experiment…

I really don’t know if that’s gratifying or sobering."

Unbelievable.

Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by swombat on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @10:09AM (#1979233)
According to TFA:

* Sarah Palin says I should be "hunted down like Osama bin Laden", a Republican bill sits before the US Senate seeking to have me declared a "transnational threat" and disposed of accordingly. An adviser to the Canadian Prime Minister's office has called on national television for me to be assassinated. An American blogger has called for my 20-year-old son, here in Australia, to be kidnapped and harmed for no other reason than to get at me.

Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by rzitex on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:32AM (#1979515)
swombat, just to add a little humor to that. "hunted down like Osama bin Laden" When exactly did the US of A actually manage to hunt down Osama bin laden? If Assange is hunted the same way, he is sage until around 2030.
Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by sachitgupta on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:51AM (#1979605)
Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by crocowhile on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:22AM (#1979483)
This doesn't really answer your parent's question, does it?

If you use TFA or RTFA make sure you do it properly, it's rude.

Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by resdirector on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @09:41PM (#1981638)
Agreed. Not only does it not answer my question, it's against the HN guidelines: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by swombat on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @05:22AM (#1982435)
How is it against the HN guidelines?
Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by resdirector on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @11:09AM (#1983389)
Okay, it's not really too much of a big a deal, but the way I read it, it was "TFA" as in "read the fucking article". I thought "come on, dude, it was a valid question": Julian, in his article, doesn't actually mention the source, just some vague reference to an unnamed blogger. Given the seriousness of the kidnap threats, I wanted to find out if it was a credible claim. E.g., I wanted to see the original source and find out (a) who said it (b) what was actually said and (c) ascertain how credible a threat it was.

So when I read "TFA", I thought "come on, dude, that's a bit patronizing, it's a valid question, fair shake of the sauce bottle, mate". I think a few other people thought the same way, too.

Personally I believe that there are no stupid questions (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1853740) and we shouldn't diss questions stupid or otherwise.

Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by michael_dorfman on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @05:07AM (#1982421)
Yes, it does. Explicitly and clearly. With a direct quotation.

What more could you ask for?

Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by resdirector on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @11:15AM (#1983410)
What more could you ask for?

The exact source.

There's a world of difference between Julian's assertion of "a US blogger" versus a link to the original source (which jacquesm supplied). Perhaps we're living in the wikipedia generation, but it's quite concerning that people on Hacker News automatically consider assertions to be as credible as original sources!

I mean, seriously, Julian makes a statement about how his son has received kidnapping threats, and people just swallow it without questioning? I'm not saying that I think Julian is lying (and having seen jacquesm's link, it seems like he wasn't), but I think it's incredibly important for anyone wishing to critically analyse current affairs to view all claims, on all sides of the debate, with a skeptical mind.

Re:Don't shoot the messenger for telling the truth by crocowhile on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @06:15AM (#1982504)
For instance jacquesm answer? It's way more informative, it contains the actual answer to the question, is not arrogantly witty. Enough?