Re:Google has added “unsupported browser” warnings for Edge ...
by ilarum on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @05:32AM
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Personally, I think this could just be chalked up to UA string parsing issues. Not worth the trouble for Google to kick up a storm over a marginal market share browser.
Re:Google has added “unsupported browser” warnings for Edge ...
by ilmiont on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @06:31AM
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But the bigger point is why are they even sniffing UA strings?
Google, who advocates for everybody else that you should use standards and proper feature detection, still relies on UA whitelists for their own products.
Then look at google.com homepage itself... not responsive, not in any way modern... many of their own sites perform terribly by their own guidance to other devs.
Google's hypocrisy is sickening and I'm tired of their "we own the web, do what we say" attitude.
Re:Google has added “unsupported browser” warnings for Edge ...
by shakna on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @05:54AM
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It depends on the website [0]. Which I guess means that Microsoft is going to add Google Docs to list of special cases where they need to pretend to be a different browser.
Re:Google has added “unsupported browser” warnings for Edge ...
by wqwh on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @06:31AM
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Until the day 100% of browsers support 100% of features with 100% correct implementations, or we have only one browser, it will keep working like this.
Re:Google has added “unsupported browser” warnings for Edge ...
by joesb on Friday May 03, 2019 @04:04AM
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Why are people assuming that they don't use feature detection just because they have a warning based on UA-sniffing?
Saying that an unknown browser is "unsupported browser" is not the same as saying that "it will break. we will deliberately disable the feature". All it means is "We don't know what this browser is. We have never tested on it. we will not pay as much attention is this unknown browser break".
Just because a browser passes features detection doesn't mean they don't have bugs or weird behaviors.
Why do people assume that Google doesn't both, using feature detection to enable features and also display warning if the user is user some browser they don't know and can't guarantee that they ever test on it.
Re:Google has added “unsupported browser” warnings for Edge ...
by kyriakos on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @10:24AM
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This came up a few days ago and it turns out Microsoft changed Edge's user agent in the latest update which triggered the message in Google's apps. This is likely a non-issue and will be corrected soon. Keep in mind that Edge is in beta so mistakes will happen.
Google, who advocates for everybody else that you should use standards and proper feature detection, still relies on UA whitelists for their own products.
Then look at google.com homepage itself... not responsive, not in any way modern... many of their own sites perform terribly by their own guidance to other devs.
Google's hypocrisy is sickening and I'm tired of their "we own the web, do what we say" attitude.
It could just be there is a whitelist for Google Docs, like on Google Meet:
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/26/18518346/google-meet-micr...
[0] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/the-new-micr...
Unsupported browser is a bit of a joke anyways in times of modern web standards...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_detection_(web_develop...
Saying that an unknown browser is "unsupported browser" is not the same as saying that "it will break. we will deliberately disable the feature". All it means is "We don't know what this browser is. We have never tested on it. we will not pay as much attention is this unknown browser break".
Just because a browser passes features detection doesn't mean they don't have bugs or weird behaviors.
Why do people assume that Google doesn't both, using feature detection to enable features and also display warning if the user is user some browser they don't know and can't guarantee that they ever test on it.
Edge Chromium explicitly uses a new User-Agent string so websites see it as Chromium, not as Edge (it does not even contain "Edge", only "Edg").
And yet, Google intentionally works against any browser except their own.
Not sure if it was MS changing something or Google changing something?