Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by skykooler on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @09:47AM
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Point of data here - having owned an ICE vehicle for two years, the first components I had to replace were windshield wipers, a taillight, and a tire (which ran over a bolt) - all of which would be at the same risk of failure in an EV.
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by prolepunk on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @11:28AM
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The average age of the vehicle on the road in the US is about 10 years. Not everyone buys brand new cars, and after a few years things start to break.
Although from my experience things not related to drivetrain break:
* Suspension
* Brakes
* Steering rack.
As these components handle the most peak force.
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by greedo on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @01:19PM
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But are used car buyers, (or owners of 3+ year cars) having them repaired at the dealership? Most people I know go to 3rd party shops to minimize costs; the same motive that leads them to buy used in the first place.
I wonder how much the average dealership makes off repairs covered by warranty, compared to out of pocket repairs.
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by mjamesaustin on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @11:44AM
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Brakes in an EV pretty much never need to be replaced, because most of the braking is regenerative and doesn't wear the pads at all.
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by logifail on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @02:16PM
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If you live in a place with a decent winter, and hence a decent quantity of salt on the roads, you may have to replace your brakes due to corrosion long before the pads "wear out".
Does this kind of stuff not happen to EVs?
http://www.safercar.gov/staticfiles/safercar/pdf/EA11-001_cl...
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by woodpanel on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @09:37AM
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Same. Never had to repair anything in the first three years of a new ICE. If it weren't for mandatory visitations (in order to keep the guarantee) I'd have never see the dealership from within again.
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by slg on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @11:29AM
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The average car on the road is closing in on 12 years old [1] so you can't just look at the first 3 years. The first few years of an ICE vehicle might be very similar to an EV, but that changes drastically as a car ages.
[1] - https://www.bts.gov/content/average-age-automobiles-and-truc...
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit...
by logifail on Friday April 26, 2019 @03:33PM
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> The first few years of an ICE vehicle might be very similar to an EV, but that changes drastically as a car ages
If the average age of all cars on the road is 12 years, where's the data for 12 year old EVs?
If you buy a new ICE powered vehicle, how many of any of the parts you mention would one expect to replace in - for instance - the first three years of the vehicles' life?
Our experience is that the first few years of a ICE vehicle's life involves changing oil and oil filters and most likely not a whole lot else:
https://owners.vwmodels.ca/maintenance/timeline/