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Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit... by laumars on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @06:57AM (#19737169)
I have had just as many issues with things braking unrelated to the engine. Eg washer fluid bottle leaking, air conditioning, disk breaks needing replacing, tire sensors breaking, tires going bald, etc.

Out of the engine related problems, the cam belt and clutch are the things that's caused issues in the last 5 years across my various cars.

Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit... by m463 on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:38AM (#19745029)
I just kind of realized that any part that lives under the hood of an ICE car is in a pretty harsh environment.
Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit... by neuronic on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @07:36AM (#19737349)
Those are far easier to handle than, for example, changing a timing belt on a gasoline engine. Faster too...

You need less qualified people, less time, less parts, less often for repairs that a handy person can often do themselves and save on labor and parts. Significant sources of income are therefore shrunk for dealerships.

Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit... by laumars on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @08:58AM (#19737852)
Sure, you can replace brake pads yourself. But few people want to do it; let alone are capable. Saying "significant sources of income are therefore shrunk" significantly overstates just how many people would do their maintenance work on that level.

I know people who have paid people to replace the bulbs on a car. My wife rarely even bothers to refill the washer and I can count on 1 hand the number of times she's checker her oil in the nearly 20 years of owning a car.

Most people either don't care how cars work, don't have the technical capabilities to fix their own car or simply don't want to.

Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit... by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @09:58AM (#19738369)
>I know people who have paid people to replace the bulbs on a car.

To be fair most newer cars need a fair amount of front bodywork pulled to change a bulb and most crossovers require pulling tail light housings which can be kind of intimidating for someone who's never done anything more than changed windshield wipers.

Re:Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer wit... by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @07:44AM (#19737400)
Engine and trans stuff isn't a significant source of income for them though. If anything ICE specific parts are a break even waste of a bay because for every person dumb enough to have a dealer do a timing belt out of warranty there's another person getting some leaking gasket replaced under warranty. Dealerships probably stand to make more money on EVs. Independent mechanics will probably lose out some though.