Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by VectorLock on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:30PM
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I don't think its fair to judge the worth of someone's degree simply based on how much they earn.
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Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by tomsthumb on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:34PM
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In an economic context, why would it not be fair to judge the economic worth of someone’s degree on the basis of that degree’s ability to influence their earnings?
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by SantalBlush on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:44PM
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Because there are a litany of counterexamples to the myth that earnings equate to economic value. Teachers, police officers, and social workers immediately come to mind.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by tomsthumb on Monday April 22, 2019 @06:55PM
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That sounds like a great argument for subsidizing teacher and social worker education instead of the wholesale forgiveness of student debt which includes people with degrees in poetry and pottery. Poetry and pottery are both valuable to society, but honestly a lot of the people who are good at those things don’t have matching degrees. Also, forgiving loans for pottery degrees competes with our ability to subsidize education for teachers.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by sanxiyn on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:52PM
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The obvious solution is to subsidize teacher pay etc, not to subsidize education to be teacher! If teachers are well paid, you wouldn't need to subsidize teacher education.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by dragonwriter on Monday April 22, 2019 @06:30PM
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Subsidizing teacher pay is subsidizing education.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by lutorm on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:44PM
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Yes but having an educated citizenry pays dividends in a multitude of non-economic contexts.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by dillonmckay on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:56PM
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Unfortunately, degree != educated.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by VectorLock on Friday April 26, 2019 @06:10PM
(#19762199)
For most intents and purposes, pursuing a degree entails attempts to become educated.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by sanxiyn on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:38PM
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Some works of art may have value beyond their auction price, but you probably shouldn't buy them if you can't afford them.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by malvosenior on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:32PM
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If I'm expected to pay for it with tax dollars, that's the only possible way to view it. I'm not going to subsidize someone "finding themselves".
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by gerbal on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:36PM
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No, you subsidize people doing poorly paid but highly educated work in fields like public health work, education, and non-profits. You also subsidize people getting the basic education required for many jobs.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by 0815test on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:40PM
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Many jobs do not require the "basic education" that a college degree provides - a HS education is entirely sufficient, and was widely regarded as such even as late as a few decades ago. It's a wasteful credential-chasing arms race, and the more we keep subsidizing it the worse it will get for everyone involved.
Re:Warren’s Higher Education Plan: Cancel Student Debt and E...
by VectorLock on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:55AM
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Much like welfare and food subsidies in my view its morally unacceptable when you start judging an individual's worthiness rather than their need.