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Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by sidlls on Saturday April 20, 2019 @06:44PM (#19709381)
These are not normal base salaries even for senior programmers in the bay area. The 60th percentile for senior software engineers is around $180k per year in the Bay Area. Total compensation is commonly $200k or more, easily, but not base. Outside of the Bay Area, even in NY, Chicago, etc., base salaries are lower. In most places they're much lower--below $100k.
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by geuszb on Saturday April 20, 2019 @10:19PM (#19710191)
In large companies, there's another factor to consider, which is that if you're a few years into the company, the stock grants that you received a few years back and that are still vesting now are now possibly worth a lot more... your total yearly comp increases quite a bit if your company stock did well for the few years you've been with them.
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by chronogram on Saturday April 20, 2019 @07:31PM (#19709582)
Those are not nett salaries are they? So keep in mind in Europe it can be 5k times 2 times 12=120k.

(How to use asterisks here?)

Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by sidlls on Saturday April 20, 2019 @07:56PM (#19709676)
A 50th percentile base salary for a senior engineer in the Bay Area is around $150k-$160k per year. Most companies offer a cash bonus (10%-15% of base); including this puts a typical cash compensation total for a 50th percentile senior engineer is between $165k and $184k per year. Most companies offer stock, but the grant and value of these varies wildly. Public companies' stock is actually worth something but you have your places like Google where RSU grants are a huge portion of salary and other places where it's closer to the cash bonus portion of salary.

This is all gross, pre-deduction salary; not salary net of taxes, deductions, etc.

Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by droithomme on Saturday April 20, 2019 @09:07PM (#19709935)
Base salary is a ruse. Median total compensation for qualified experts in the bay is currently $450-750k at reputable firms. Everyone knows this. Any company offering less is simply not in the running and is staffed by absolute morons and won't make it. So sad to be them.
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by nitrogen on Saturday April 20, 2019 @09:36PM (#19710030)
What's your bar for "qualified expert" in this context?
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by geodel on Saturday April 20, 2019 @11:04PM (#19710308)
Their linkedin profile says so.
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by Shaanie on Saturday April 20, 2019 @08:19PM (#19709754)
I can't say I've seen people talk about their net salary in Europe, but we do typically galk about monthly salary. (Even if they did say net salary, paying an effective income tax of 50% would be quite exceptional; I would need to make a bit over $300 000 for that in Sweden, which is insanely high.)
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by tyingq on Saturday April 20, 2019 @08:45PM (#19709851)
"How to use asterisks here?"

There is a Unicode small asterisk: ﹡

And some other variations: ∗ *

Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by mkl on Saturday April 20, 2019 @10:46PM (#19710271)
https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc

If you surround an asterisk by spaces it works fine: a * b * c * d

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Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by sidlls on Saturday April 20, 2019 @11:55PM (#19710451)
$600/hr is the equivalent of about $1.2M/year salary. That's exceptionally rare. Unless you're being cheeky with "should be", I think you have beliefs that are misaligned with reality.
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by Malician on Sunday April 21, 2019 @12:27AM (#19710543)
Hourly billing rate has to cover all the hours you can't bill for, PTO, health care, everything..
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by hellisothers on Sunday April 21, 2019 @02:20AM (#19710795)
Most contractors I know don’t work 40hrs day, every week. Also if you look around at advice you’ll find that you shouldn’t quote an hourly rate, you should quote “for the job”. If you’re good and the work you’re doing is even mildly specialized you can get a job done quickly enough that the effective hourly rate is pretty absurd.
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by tunesmith on Saturday April 20, 2019 @11:55PM (#19710452)
What counts as "independent expert in specialized field"? Because as an independent backend contractor (java/spring/scala/akka) that straddles the line between architectural consulting and staff augmentation (usually long-term contracts), I see real resistance to going above $200/hr since even in the bay area you can hire full teams from vendors at around that price point for man hours.
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by maxxxxx on Sunday April 21, 2019 @12:20AM (#19710520)
8*600 is $4800 per day. What kind of expert in what specialized field do you have to be to make that much? Can you give a specific example?
Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by sjy on Sunday April 21, 2019 @02:01AM (#19710739)
Seems below average for law firm partners [1], and there's a lot of them out there, so it doesn't surprise me at all that technical consultants with genuinely rare skills could command hourly rates like that.

[1] https://www.mlaglobal.com/en/knowledge-library/research/2018...

Re:We Don't Have a Talent Shortage. We Have a Sucker Shortage by maxxxxx on Sunday April 21, 2019 @10:17AM (#19712155)
Has anybody ever seen such a thing in reality? I have seen quite a few consultants and nobody ever got even close.