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Re:Fastly S-1 by nyc_pizzadev on Friday April 19, 2019 @02:55PM (#19702027)
For an edge to work, you need security. That means transport encryption which requires certs. I think this fact alone will keep the edge at modern secured datacenters. There is limited physical security at cell sites. Even less at the users home. This could mean there is no more transport encryption for this kind of edge. Or even worse, private key loss.

Not saying no here, just pointing out a very large concern.

Re:Fastly S-1 by zackbloom on Friday April 19, 2019 @05:44PM (#19703282)
Have you taken a look at the Cloudflare Keyless SSL tech?
Re:Fastly S-1 by nyc_pizzadev on Friday April 19, 2019 @06:43PM (#19703625)
Just did and I think it furthers my point. Cloudflare now owns your key and the edge is now their network.

My concern is cert/key management where the edge is somewhere you have very little control over, like a cell tower, random building network, or a users house. Even with keyless, once that device is in my home, Im pretty sure that entire thing can be reverse engineered. Not easy, like probes and oscilloscopes on exposed leads hard, but physical access is pretty much game over, no?

I've worked in this space and the solution is detection and mitigation. Limit the damage to single devices, workflow the user in, look for human attack patterns. Defense is futile.

Re:Fastly S-1 by iancarroll on Friday April 19, 2019 @10:32PM (#19704490)
The point is that the key is never in the possession of the edge (i.e. Cloudflare). There is no way the edge could recover the key. They can use it to sign whatever they want, while you allow them to, although you can take whatever auditing measures you'd like there.