Re:Ask HN: Are we killing the web by giving to much power to...
by ravenstine on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @06:04PM
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Hold the phone. Public WiFi is where you want your connection to be encrypted at all times. A WiFi login page should be encrypted without scaring the user just because its certificate is self-signed. Beyond that, any connection that is encrypted on public WiFi is better than one with no encryption. I don't care if I'm looking at pictures of dogs and cats; it's not the business of other people on my network to sniff my activity and see exactly what I'm reading, even if they can see my DNS activity. Users aren't in control of whether a site supports HTTPS, thus it's a courtesy, given the ease it takes in implementing HTTPS, that even "innocent" web services do so.
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Re:Ask HN: Are we killing the web by giving to much power to...
by marc3842h on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @01:03AM
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I do agree that encryption is especially required on public WiFi networks. But WiFi login pages error because they mitm your current, encrypted connection. Your proposal would additionally add an error in a case where the user especially chose a http site to not receive a error because they're getting mitm-led. I never had any wifi login page that used a self signed certificate.
Re:Ask HN: Are we killing the web by giving to much power to...
by RandomInteger4 on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @02:57AM
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Then providers of public wifi need to stop using a MITM to provide wifi access. This is an opportunity for better technology to be developed or implemented or made easier to implement or whatever.