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Re:The Notre Dame fire and the future of history by panarky on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @10:53AM (#19674118)
>> architects and planners knew it would not be completed in their lifetime, and yet they progressed for a greater cause

> pissing away our society's resources on monuments to hubris

Is it impossible to imagine a cause that transcends vanity or hubris?

Must every collective effort be corrupted by selfishness?

Re:The Notre Dame fire and the future of history by rayiner on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @10:57AM (#19674167)
> Must every collective effort be corrupted by selfishness?

Collective efforts directed to realizing the vision of the few are inherently suspect.

Re:The Notre Dame fire and the future of history by panarky on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @11:50AM (#19674689)
Are there leaderless collective efforts that span generations that you think are worthwhile?