Re:How Apple, Google, and other tech companies conspired aga...
by stirfrykitty on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @02:26PM
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You (metaphorically) still didn't answer the underlying question, namely, wouldn't you do anything it took to save a loved one? The answer isn't grey, it's black and white. The answer is always YES to doing what it takes to save one's family. You have a moral imperative to do whatever it takes to keep your own safe, up to, and including, your own life. You fail your family morally if you fail to act when you could do so.
People like to throw in these trick questions like, "If you could save your own child, but nine others would die; or you could save the nine and your own would die. What would you choose?" Save my own child every time.
Re:How Apple, Google, and other tech companies conspired aga...
by MockObject on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @03:44PM
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So, then you'd kill 6 billion to save your own child.
Re:How Apple, Google, and other tech companies conspired aga...
by stirfrykitty on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @03:50PM
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That is patently ridiculous and taken to the extreme and you know it. We are talking reasonable possible situations (not world events) that you may find yourself in. And yes, if I had a choice to save an entire building or just my kid, it's my kid every time. I fail them morally if I do not. I'm not responsible for other people's family, just my own. Now... if I could save my kid and everyone else, then yes. But my kid first.
Re:How Apple, Google, and other tech companies conspired aga...
by MockObject on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @04:26PM
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Hardly ridiculous, it's inescapably implied by
> The answer isn't grey, it's black and white. The answer is always YES to doing what it takes to save one's family.
You didn't really need to make such an absolute point, but you did.
Remember, Guantanamo also had taxi drivers and aid workers in it. How many of them are you willing to torture in order to find the terrorist you've captured and maybe get some information that might help stop a future terrorist plot? The hypothetical of capturing a top general with a tight deadline provides a terrible intuition when it comes to torture.
But that is exactly the kind of intuition Rumsfeld et al wanted people to be thinking about, in order to justify torture^W enhanced interrogation techniques.