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Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by neonhat on Monday April 15, 2019 @03:54PM (#19668350)
How is Signal inferior to WhatsApp "in terms of functionality and usability"?
Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by 77ko on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:06PM (#19668433)
Just a few things:

- Signal is a lot less "polished" - FB has spent tons more resources on making a slick streamlined easy to use interface. Even though signal looks similar its missing all the little things.

- there is no easy to use backup. Whatsapp can backup to google drive or icloud and restore it on another phone. Signal you have to figure out how to deal with and transfer your backup file[1]. This isn't easy for regular folks, Signal needs to be able to connect to cloud storage (preferably of your choice).

- Whatsapp deals with and displays media better/faster

- calling works better. last time I checked whatsapp has easy group video and audio calls, Signal had neither.

There is actually lots more. I prefer the idea of using Signal over whatsapp, but I found it not close enough yet. Especially for non-techy ppl.

[1]: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007059752-Ba...

Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by Tomte on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:19PM (#19668541)
> Whatsapp can backup to google drive or icloud and restore it on another phone.

As long as it's Android to Android or iPhone to iPhone. Oh, and Windows phone backup transfers never worked, not even to another Windows phone.

Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by jammygit on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:50PM (#19668799)
Personally, I don't want backups. I don't want to worry whether some joke I made 10 years ago would look bad in a future data dump. If messages could self destruct after three years that would be lovely
Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by afiori on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @04:37AM (#19672071)
I personally will never user a personal messaging app without long term backups. In twenty years there I will have many fond memories of my past conversations. I see it (almost) no different from keeping old letters.
Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by orbifold on Monday April 15, 2019 @07:18PM (#19669735)
It feels much worse to use than both Telegram or WhatsApp, both on Android and on OSX. I had installed it on iOS and Android and uninstalled within 10 minutes of trying to use it. That is how bad my user experience was.
Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by truncate on Monday April 15, 2019 @05:07PM (#19668931)
My main complain is that whenever I start the desktop client after few days, it takes forever to load the old messages. I'm not sure, but I think it tries to download all messages and attachments before showing the UI, which can be potentially made faster by first trying to get the messages from person I'm trying to talk to and downloading attachments after text messages (Not sure about implication to security protocol here).
Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by sseppola on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:15PM (#19668510)
I had issues with lag and dropped packets when I was calling from Europe to South America with Signal about 6 months ago. I was really cheering for Signal (still am) and had suggested we try it, but it failed quite quickly. We moved the call back to WhatsApp within a minute or two, and had no problems whatsoever. So at least in my mind WhatsApp is still much more reliable.
Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by seppin on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:21PM (#19668560)
It has almost none of my contacts on them. Pretty useless as a messenger as such.
Re:Darpa wants to make a better, more secure, version of Wha... by Zhenya on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:33PM (#19668668)
Invite users and explain why? I went from zero contacts to every single person i need to reach at any frequency is now on Signal.